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Michael
03-23-99, 01:24 PM
I am new to ff for trout, I have ff for bream and b****with popping bugs, but this is a lot different. I went Saturday to the hooch in a belly boat and did not catch anything. I was using a wooly worm and then a guy gave me a something prince, had one hit but none landed. I have several questions I hope you guys can help me with. 1. What are some good flys for the hooch this time of year. 2. How do you present the fly. 3. What is the difference between a leader and a tippet and which should I use and how. 4. Any particular things to look for in the water to target. I appreciate your help and if your reading this thanks to the one who gave me the flys on Saturday.
So many questions so little time. Michael many of the guys that post here fish the 'hooch often your best bet would be to get with one of them one weekend and all of them will be glad help you out. I started out on b****and bream myself and you will have to learn some different tricks, not difficult but different. Its much easier to see it done than have someone tell you how to do it. I don't fish the hooch much myself or i'd be happy to help you out. OK guys someone show Michael the ropes!!
Michael....
I think BT gave you the best possible answer to your questions. Drop me an e-mail and I will be glad to give you details on our next float and between myself, Aaron, Super Chub. Cocoon and Net Boy I am sure we can get you pointed in the right direction. It would be great to have you along.
Flyguy
Woolly Buggers are a fly that you have to know how to fish if your going to catch anything. But when you learn how to fish it, it can be deadly anywhere. As far as patterns go, fish back threw the posts about 3 months or so. I remember a thread with just about all the flies to get you started. The Hooch can be a difficult place to fish. It takes alot of practice to consistantly take fish there.
Shawn
Get the Orvis fly fishing video. I'm not sure of the exact title but it is an introduction to fly fishing. It's about $20 and I think B****Pro carries it (and of course Orvis). The video covers basic casting, equipment, flies, and actual fishing. I think the casting, fly, and knot information is worth the price. Someone gave me this video to watch when I first started fly fishing and it taught me a lot.
Once you get the basics, its much easier for someone to show you the other stuff on the water (ie. how to cast wind knots, removing hooks from various body parts, catching chubs).
NetBoy
Get the Orvis fly fishing video. I'm not sure of the exact title but it is an introduction to fly fishing. It's about $20 and I think B****Pro carries it (and of course Orvis). The video covers basic casting, equipment, flies, and actual fishing. I think the casting, fly, and knot information is worth the price. Someone gave me this video to watch when I first started fly fishing and it taught me a lot.
Once you get the basics, its much easier for someone to show you the other stuff on the water (ie. how to cast wind knots, removing hooks from various body parts, catching chubs).
NetBoy
Michael,
Take 'em up on a trip. That's worth a hundred books, articles and videos.
Until then, my 2cents:
I'd fish a black wooly bugger (with some flash built in) size 10 with a nymph (prince is ok) dropper 10 to 15 " below it tied to the wooly's hook.
Use a strike indicatorup the line at twice the water depth. Cast slightly upstream of likely spots and dead drift by following the indicator with the rod tip. Then it will swing with the current and rise near the surface. React to any movement of the indicator.
A leader is the transition piece between the fly line and fly. It starts off thick and ends up thin. I call the thin part - tippet. If mono leaders are used they may begin (near the fly line) at 0.02" diam. (about 25# test) and finish with a 0.007" diam. 4X tippet (about 6 # test).
Things to look for in the water - fish.
Loren
NightOwl
03-23-99, 10:49 PM
......or ,....just head up to ...say....Nimbelwill or Rock creek, tie on a streamer and toss it downstream at the stockers. Let it drift and hang in the current and then strip it back to you with little jerks......no more fishless flyfishing! ( but the Hooch...I'm leaving that to the "city folk" !! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
Owl
Also, see the post about the loop system for your leaders. I have started using it and I save about 1/2 hour every time I fish. Also, look into a braided leader. All you have to do is loop your tippet and loop it on. As far as the Hooch, I can not help ya. I'm like Owl and like to fish small water even though I live 15 mins from the Hooch.
I'm still learning, J Byrd.
Mike,
Since you are just starting on trout.. my $0.02 here. I would start practicing in the backyard, park or wherever on your accuracy. Yes accuracy comes into play fishing for bream/bass/blue gills, but not to the extreme you will need in trout.
Put out some dishes or bowls or whatever for targets at different distance and around different objects. Such as under a tree, shrub, overhanging branches etc.
Take a fly and snip the hook off so that you dont constantly spend your time getting it out of the gr****or trees.
Then start casting and casting and casting and casting to hit your targets.
The reason for all of this is that the trout streams (besides the tailwaters) are rather overhung and tight. If you do not learn accuracy before you hit the water you will get frustrated, lose flies, and some people have given up on mt stream because of it.
But this casting lessons will teach you how to cast into trout lies. They love overhanging branches, roots sticking out of the bank, that impossible log jam,etc,.,,,
Plus then from here you can start to learn hook casts to cast around objects to get to your target
(Hook cast made easy..let your line go out and let go with your line hand, the line will shoot out and then when the line tightens and pulls on the reel it will 95% of the time curve to the right , if you cast with your right hand, or left if lefthanded caster. From there you can learn to modify it even more.)
Curve casts are essential, and so are throwing S-casts in order to cut back on line drag.
Good luck, and actually Joe Brooks has written book simply "Trout Fishing" and goes into details about casting/accuracy. Joan Wulff also has written and video taped about casting accuracy.
Cuz in my opinion that is the one thing people need to learn before attacking a trout stream/
Jeffg.
correction:
1)The line will curve to the left if you are righthanded caster and vice versa.
my bad.
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