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Tom
05-03-99, 04:02 PM
My fishing partner and I worked our way up the small creek, catching and releasing small wildand colorful rainbows.
As he took his turn at a small pool ahead, he exclaimed, "would you look at that?", pointing into the depths of the pool. A small fish with large goggle type eyes kept dashing up from the bottom, striking out at everything that floated downstream - bits of leaves, tatters of bark, and yes, even an insect now and then. Nothing got past him.
"Oh yeah", I said, "I've run into him before. Before one of the trout has a chance to respond, he dashes up and smacks whatever comes by"
I reached into my vest, withdrawing the box in which I keep new and untried flies. "Here, try this one. It's a bit overdressed and it is probably too gaudy. Maybe it will get p****him."
My friend tied the fly onto his tippet, flipped it into the head of the pool. The fish slashed up from the bottom, tearing into the fly and hooked himself solidly. After a brief tussle, it came to net. It took some doing but the little round eyed fish had attacked so viciously, the hook was embedded deep in the gullet. After finally getting the fly out, my partner released the fish into the pool where it returned to it's feeding station and appeared to be ready for the next tidbit that floated down stream.
"Wow, what do you call that fly, Tom? It is a dandy!", by friend asked.
"It has been around for quite awhile", I replied, "It's called an 'elitist attractor' "
Tight Lines Yawl

Owl
05-06-99, 09:31 PM
Anyone seen DanS or Rod. I need a translation into English.
My first response was that I was being slammed, flammed, whatever.....but after reading it several times....I'm just confused. I think it means something but it's a little distorted and enigma-like......any "symbolism" majors out there ?

Owl
(not sure if he should be angry or not........)

Rod
05-07-99, 10:51 AM
Owl and Tom,
your ire is misplaced, as are your assumptions...Dan and I prob. are elitist sounding to some, but funny to others...
I crack myself up!
If you look closer (holding your zeal in check) you will see the sarcasm in what we post. Most of the time we tear away at the elitist tradition.

I recently admitted in a post that most of my comments were false---in regards to my talking with folks I meet on the steam---by making those other remarks that sounded elitist, I was poking fun at those orvis sponsers, that we all agree suck the fun out of sharing water with anyone.

I can offend you if you like...my waders stink, having never seen chlorinated water; my vest is tattered and soiled (dry patch full of mangled flies and ugly "intimidators"); my hair is unkempt and my mouth foul...bottom line I CATCH ALOT FISH and THROW MOST BACK but have recently aquired the taste for stocked rainbows in the 11-12" range.

My neck is prob. redder than your's owl...

piece of advice:
never get in a rock throwing contest with a feller with with no teeth
moral is self evident

ROD
Aspersian CASTER of Flies

THE EG
05-07-99, 01:52 PM
Owl,

He's talkin' bout yer mother, I think ya need to whup 'im! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

He is teasing you, Owl. You kept asking where everybody was. Well, you got a response.

Of course, typing like that is much easier when you have 12 fingers (banjos playing in the background. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif (That was politically incorrect. I am aware of that. Notice the smiley face. It was a joke.)

Tom,

How dare you. Creative metaphor such as that may disrupt well worn if not well earned Rabun County stereotypes.

I'll go ahead and submit this. I won't hear about it until Monday.

The Ole Man
05-07-99, 02:08 PM
Owl:
You only thought you were confused-now you are for sure http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif. You asked DanS or Rod for a translation of Toms story-instead Rod gives you a run-down on DanS and himself. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

Tom: Bow Wow!

briggs
05-08-99, 04:19 AM
With all the barking on the board, I wonder if Briggs has been getting on line while I've been gone.

Cover Blown,
Brigg's owner Steve

Owl
05-08-99, 09:12 PM
As I sit here ad munch a piece of the world's best cornbread ( my wife makes killer CB) I am wondering where ' I " am !? :0Tom, I think you " foul-hooked" me ! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
Hey Rod, was that about DanS? I though it was about you? Have we confused The 'Ol Man? http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
Briggs, get back on that couch and stop cluttering the board.

http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

Owl ( OOOOOOOOWwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeee)

The Ole Man
05-08-99, 11:18 PM
briggs
Go to "search", enter "Tom", punch "search for exact name". Go to "3/15/99", thread- "Fingerling Stocking", pull down to "Tom"-find the dog. Bow-wow-yippin and nippin.

Rod
05-10-99, 03:52 PM
YAWN---I now see how ignorant I am for posting...no offense meant...I retract any "apologiam de socrate"

think it might of been that time of the month when I read the opening post...that time of the month being the time when I fish less than I play on this board

Rod

Owl
05-11-99, 04:55 AM
As they say in NorthWest Ga( at least carrolton) " Talk straight , boy ! " I got the Latin, but the other parts elude my thinkin ......now I'ins be confused.... http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

BeeDub
05-11-99, 01:56 PM
Owl,

About that cornbread... Does she put bacon grease in it like my wife does? Whoa, dude. Totally excellent. We like to pretend the grease is good for us. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif Hey, remember the first rule in that list of rules you sent recently for Yankees transplanted to the South... "Save all your bacon grease. You will be instructed later how to use it!"

BeeDub - lover of fine cornbread and other good home cookin'

J Byrd
05-11-99, 02:30 PM
ummmmmmm.........corn bread. I like corn bread. it's good. My grand-mother makes good bread. it's good. I like corn bread. You guys are making me crazy with the corn bread! I have not had a home cooked meal since Reagan was in office. Gotta go visit mom. See cooks a country fried deer or elk steak with gravy and mashed potatoes (the real kind) and gravy and biscuits, and fried okra, and black-eyed peas w/ onions and pepper sauce. Oh man, finish it up with a Cutty Sark on the rocks, over looking the lake while the sun sets, puffing on a Mac.

J. Byrd. If you need me, I'm at moms house.


Hey, is anybody like my step-dad and dips his corn bread in butter milk. Now, that's a southren thing.

The Ole Man
05-11-99, 03:25 PM
J Byrd
You don't just dip that cornbread. You crumble the cornbread in chunks into the gl****of buttermilk and then eat it with a spoon-sundae style. Once most of the cornbread is gone-you drink the remainder. Standard fare in the south for eons and especially just prior to bedtime-for a good nights sleep. That buttermilk takes the acid out of your gut throughout the night. BTW-don't fool with that thin ,watery stuff known as low-fat buttermilk. You've got to have the full strength, butterfat laden, thick, old fashioned kind to enjoy this. And-make that cornbread with bacon grease like BeeDub says.

achja
05-11-99, 03:31 PM
these strange foods you talk of scare me. heck, i just had country fried steak for the first time in my life last night.

BeeDub
05-11-99, 03:49 PM
achja,

Now THAT scares ME! I hope it was good country fried steak, and had the right gravy with it. Now, I hesitate to ask, but... do you know grits? Not the instant kind. blech! Not the Waffle House kind. Not the kind someone has made right out of a box, with no proper seasoning... Yea, verily, my brother. I'm talking about grits out of a cloth sack (preferably from a local mill)and cooked with - yes, you guessed it - bacon grease.

Can I get a witness?!!!

J Byrd - Is there room for one more at your mom's house this evening?

The Ole Man's absolutely right on the cornbread and buttermilk combo. It's a Southern thing. Others won't understand...

FFing Duo
05-11-99, 03:52 PM
Cornbread crumbled in buttermilk; my mothers favorite.... I like mine hot with butter, black eyed peas, and greens all cooked up with ham hocks. MMMMMmmmmm good.

Jonathan
the only half of FFing Duo who understands fine Southern dining.

BeeDub
05-11-99, 03:55 PM
Jonathan,

I figure it's like the Harley-Davidson experience. For those who understand, no explanation is needed; for those who don't, none will be offered. eh, Drifter?

J Byrd
05-11-99, 04:24 PM
Ole Man, I'll take your word on the Buttermilk/Corn Bread. I'm not about to try it. I hate regular milk. I take my grits next to a camp fire with a little cheese, butter, and pepper. I only eat breakfest while I'm camping.

Achja, pick-up any book by Lewis Grizzard. He's a great writer about the south, funny too.

I have an Uncle in Alberta who laughed at grits until he tried them. Now my grand-mother sends monthly shipments.

J. Byrd

achja
05-11-99, 04:32 PM
the closest i've come to grits is the instant kind- i haven't eaten them, but i use them to kill fire ants. put a little molasses on the ground and cover with instant grits. the grits expand in their stomachs and kill the ants. very pet friendly for those of us with dogs.

i'd be interested in reading that yankee-transplant list...

BeeDub
05-11-99, 04:40 PM
achja,

I'll e-mail you a copy

The Ole Man
05-11-99, 07:56 PM
Turkey "Tom":
Do you see what you have wrought here. We left the Owl Fish and "lit a shuck" for bacon grease. Aren't you going to tell us about Rabun County corn bread?-or have you half breed yankees up there become such sophisticates that you prefer crescent rolls these days? http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

FFing Duo
05-12-99, 01:21 AM
Um, I gotta hankerin' for some pot roast, potatoes and a green veggie-wahsed down with some pop. Anybody want to join me?

Then a good nap.

Jessica
The Yankee transplanted half of FFing Duo

achja
05-12-99, 01:28 AM
jessica,

now you're talking! just add some crescent rolls! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/biggrin.gif

Owl
05-12-99, 01:38 AM
Pop ? You mean " Coke " , doncha ?
Everything carbonated in the south ( at least GA is " Coke"! )
Oh Lord, if there is a " NGTO" of food, may I never find it. I did like the way I got off the hook, though ! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
We eat cornbread smothered in either stewed tomatoes or a Triple suckatash ( sp? ) . It's mmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMM !


Owl
never knew " cornbread" could say so much !

Tom
05-12-99, 08:53 AM
Ole Man
Nope, crescent rolls are far down the list up here, even with the influx of Yankees by way of Florida. On Rabun campouts, you will find cornbread and biscuits baked in the good ole dutch oven.
My Dad introduced me to the fine art of crumbling my cornbread into buttermilk. I never do it but what I think of him.
Tight Lines, Tom

Kent
05-12-99, 10:46 AM
Ole Man -

You're right - "pop" definitely "yankee" term, but the original southern term for coke was "dope". Do you remember that one?

Kent

The Ole Man
05-12-99, 02:34 PM
Right on Owl
An unfailing dead give away for someone not from the south is for them to refer to a carbonated drink as a "pop" or a "soda" or a "soda-pop". In the south they are called by the specific name (Coke, Pepsi, RC, Dr. Pepper, Red Rock Cola, Nugrape, Nehi, ect.) or the generic term "soft-drink" (as opposed to a hard-drink being something with alcohol in it). But Jessica, if you'll cook us a pot roast with new potatoes and carrots ;served with some pole beans cooked with ham-hock on the side, we'll eat the crescent rolls, skip the cornbread and be your friend for life. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif Just no English Peas please.

The Ole Man
05-12-99, 04:23 PM
Kent
Sure do. Story is that the Atlanta pharmacist that formulated coke put a little cocaine in it. Cocaine coming from the cocoa tree-thus the name Coca-Cola. This was well before such a thing as the FDA or DEA. Prior to the FDA you could concoct anything you wanted to and make claims for its powers to cure 101 ailments. The Snake Oil days. I heard older folks for years refer to drinking a coke as having a "dope".

Kent
05-12-99, 08:17 PM
Ole Man -

`Was really "the pause that refreshes" then, huh!

Kent

Tom
05-14-99, 07:32 AM
On the subject of grits - next time you are visiting Jimmy Harris' Unicoi Outfitters, step next door to Nora Mills. They have grits almost like they use to be - with a little backbone in them. Now you can't cook them for 5 minutes and expect them to be done, you gotta go about 20-30 minutes, lots of butter (preferred) or margerine. Grits were really formulated? to absorb the yellow of your eggs - not to be eaten as cereal. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

Kent
05-14-99, 10:11 AM
Tom -
You're absolutely right.....and wrong. Real, whole-grain grits bear no resemblance to the 5-minute quick variety. But they are a meal in themselves - to sully them with the yellow of an egg is grotesque.

BTW, for those of you fishing the tournament at Callaway, the general store there has "real" grits for sale, too.

Kent

THE EG
05-14-99, 11:22 AM
UH OH. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif Be careful guys. This has the potential to rise to the level of animosity of discussions on politics and religion combined. Be civil. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

The Ole Man
05-14-99, 12:42 PM
Cornbread, bacon grease, buttermilk, grits, pop, dope, elitists, the south, crescent rolls, elk steaks, ham hocks, yankees, fire ants and owl fish. EG, with that many hot topics, I'm surprsed this thread didn't self destruct. We can probably work some c&r in here at the bottom of this and set off one mo big a.. bon-fire. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif T.O.M.-Message Board Terrorist

J Byrd
05-14-99, 01:11 PM
Are grits harmful to trout if swallowed? Sould we be more careful of grit consumption near a trout fishery?

Owl
05-16-99, 01:52 PM
Catch and Release fishing is only for people that have the audacity( sp?) to call themselves " anglers" or , even worse, " Sportsmen". This is a joke. However, I think GA needs 20 or so C&R streams manned with guard houses and rangers and the " check-in / out" policy of Smith's and Water's. Now, how we gonna pay for it?! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

FFing Duo
05-16-99, 10:28 PM
Jessica and I enjoyed our trip to Callaway. Check out our report on the fishing in the "Warm Water" forum. For now I wanted to point everyone to the auction we have. It has extreme relavance to this thread, especially for our yankee friends.

Jonathan

P.S. I resemble that yankee remark--- Jessica

The Ole Man
05-16-99, 11:28 PM
Ok Jonathan, now lets analyze this. YOU bought the grits at Callaway. Jessica didn't want to make a scene at the resort-so she waited til you got home. She then not only refused to cook/eat any of them, but told you to get rid of them. You put them in the auction to recoup some of your mis-guided expense. That's pretty much it-right? Jonathan, you must handle this delicate matter with the utmost care. I'd hate to see you have to sleep in the car tonight. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif BTW-my bid is in.

achja
05-17-99, 12:20 AM
So I bid on these grits, but what do you do with them? Can't expect me to eat them... http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/biggrin.gif

Owl
05-17-99, 11:40 PM
So how do you make the smley face with the mustache or whatever it is ?

Owl http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif


A. Kirsen, you still there? http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

KB
05-18-99, 12:52 AM
You eat them with chedder cheese and fried Raimbow Trout.
What else would you do with them? http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

KB

FFing Duo
05-18-99, 01:06 AM
Ole Man,

That would be the more entertaining story... She didn't let me get the chutney or chow chow though....

Achja came up with interesting question. What are 101 uses for grits that don't include eating them. Maybe as a patch for a hole in the wall? http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif Or was that toothpaste...

Jonathan

NGTO
05-18-99, 01:28 AM
I say the high bidder on the grits can make any of the lower bidders eat the entire bag in one sitting.... game?

KB
05-18-99, 01:35 AM
Then that would explain what the :0 really means.

KB
05-18-99, 01:36 AM
oops, I mean http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/redface.gif.....
now I know what it means

The Ole Man
05-19-99, 12:36 AM
NGTO
2 pounds of grits cooked up with water probably weighs 5 pounds. Thats a few more grits than even I can bear at once. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

Windknot
05-20-99, 08:55 AM
Re: Grits as Construction Material
Deer season, 1979. A cold, blustery, rainy day. My best friend was alone in camp, in a house that dated to the turn of the century. Interior walls were of mortar and lath construction. The breezes blowing thru 40 years worth of bullet holes in the room we used as a kitchen bothered him, so he started checking our supplies for something to patch the holes.

Finding only a container of grits, he brewed up a pound or so and putty-knifed it into the holes. When we were setting up to paint the room ten years later, the patches were still solid as the surrounding mortar. The mice never bothered it. When we lost the deer lease in '94, not one patch had failed. Never underestimate the power of corn! Or the selectivity of mice. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif

Tight lines and hard food deposits,
Windknot

snowwis
05-20-99, 05:39 PM
We had a visitor from England a couple of years ago. His most treasured gift from his trip down south was a box of Jim Dandy Grits that the whole gang autographed!! He says the box of grits is prominently displayed in his kitchen, and he loves to tell his friends about it! (My spouse is an Arkansas transplant, and he eats grits like a cereal with sugar.) He WILL eat cheese grits with fried catfish, so we're making some progress!

Does anyone out there like Cracklin' Bread? (yummm...)

achja
05-20-99, 07:58 PM
Aaron,

That high bidder making any lower bidder eat the whole bag of grits is a bad idea! I can just see the emails flying around between y'all about contributing funds in order to get a winning bid just to make me, the "yankee" who has never tried grits, eat the whole bag!

The Ole Man
05-20-99, 09:33 PM
snowwhite
They probably don't even know what that is.

FFing Duo
05-21-99, 02:15 PM
Cracklin'... it's been so long since I've had that. You are talking about cracklins in cornbread, right? yummm!!! Can you find them around here? I might have to hold off making the cornbread/black eyed peas/greens dinner for Jessica until I find some....

Jonathan

The Ole Man
05-22-99, 12:09 AM
Been watching that grits auction. Ain't never seed an ol boy so hot for a sack of grits as that feller Aaron Slugo. Tell ya now, them things is gittin to be mighty expensive. They gittin way high up on the hawg. Hell-I can eat chitlins at those prices. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

snowwis
05-22-99, 10:02 AM
Did you say chittlins??? We live about 15 miles from the home of the Annual Chittlin' Jamboree! They have chittlin' eating contests, and the autumn air is full of the smell of fried chittlins...I suppose you would have to cultivate a taste for them. I tried ONE fried one. The crispy fried battered coating was pretty tasty; however, when I got down to the real thing (the chittlin') it was kinda like trying to chew an automobile tire! I'll stick with Cracklin' Bread (soaking the cracklins in buttermilk to soften them, then grinding them in the blender) before adding them to the cornbread batter. Bake that stuff in a cast iron skillet in a hot oven, and you've got cracklin' bread fit for a king!!!

Banker In Space
05-22-99, 05:02 PM
ahh the South.....the things I love

Grits
Coke
Cracklin Bread
Corn Bread
Corn Bread W/ Jalepenos
Corn Bread w/ Buttermilk
Corn Bread w/ sugar
Grits w/cheese
Grits w/butter
Grits w/catfish

Chittlins? Once and never again Not enough mash in Tennessee and Kentucky!

Ya'll come on back now, ya hear!

Owl
05-23-99, 01:45 AM
Me thinks the aforementioned beverage was the reason folks ate Chitins to begin with. Sorry, but pig intestines is just plain filthy ! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif Yucky - yuck- yuck !

http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif Owl

snowwis
05-23-99, 02:35 PM
Owl--Agree with you on that one! Chittlins rank right up there with a Fried Pig Ear Sandwich! Give me Collards, Fried Green Tomatoes and Cracklin' Bread...now that's good food.

The Ole Man
05-23-99, 03:13 PM
snowy river
You forgot the Pickled Pigs Feet with Ritz Crackers......yummmmy

Tom
05-24-99, 12:19 PM
Growing up in the dark ages in Dekalb Co, in Stone Mountain, each year we killed about 10 hogs or hawgs if you wish, and I still remember the frosty mornings, the hot water steaming from the iron pots in readiness for scrapeing the critters. Some of the helpers would covet the chitterlings. Knowing exactly what they were, I would never even try them, but the cracklin's! Ah, they were great in cornbread. Rendering the lard and skimming off the cracklings was one of my early jobs as a kid.
We had one ole boar, named Dan, who we would let out in the fall to eat acorns under the yard oaks. He would let me ride him around as long as there were acorns.
When we first returned to Georgia, I drove out there to discover a subdivision sitting on much of our old 68 acre farm.
With nostalgia, Tom

snowwis
05-25-99, 09:58 AM
www.grits.com 'Nuf said! Now, where are the trout biting?? With the long weekend coming up, we need some hints on where to go, guys!!

Owl
05-25-99, 04:28 PM
Put up an email address and I'll give you some good bets. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
the only thing I can post is ...The Hooch in Helen, Low Gap creek, or Boggs creek ( which is ow a $2 a car USFS pay site , like Dicks creek......

What's upwid all these creeks going to " Pay" status ?!

snowwis
05-29-99, 11:16 AM
Can anyone furnish info on the stream flowing into Unicoi Lake? Access?? Stocked?? C&R?? ":" ")" Thanks...

snowwis
05-29-99, 11:17 AM
Whoops--the "smiley face directions" didn't work for me, as evidenced in my post above! Need further instructions, guys.

Owl
05-29-99, 08:37 PM
http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif hehe,...Snow White, put the : .....and the ) beside each other without the quotation marks....sorry for me boo-boo.

The creek above the lake is stocked below the culvert and fishing platforms( look for the huddled masses!) and there are supposed to be wid rainbows above the stocked area...however, I fished it 2 wks. afterOpening day and didn't even spook a trout.....emai me and I'll fill ya in on a few good holes nearby... http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

Owl