help with holdovers train to eat trout food

[Mike Smith]

When you find a holdover which has been eating and loves trout food, but isn't in an area to get trout food daily. What will work to get them to bit. All I know is their look for something on top of the water. they passed up all my dry's and wolly's Black, green and brown. even passed on a cray fish lure and a roster tail (witch I hatted to use but I had triad everything I had. PS they were't scared of me either. Thanks avg wt. 2-4 lbs.

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[fishindoc]

You might try the old Pureena Trout Chow pattern. To be really "sportsman like" you tie these by spinning deer hair and trimming it to size and shape. Then again, some use foam balls, ect. to cut the shape. If your fish are really accustome to being feed it might just be the ticket. Just use as small of a hook as you can and make sure the final creation floats.
troutchowfishindoc

[Lee Dawg]

If you need to go super sicko and they have pissed you off, drill a small hole in a piece of chow. Stick your hook through it. Dam up some thread either end to hold it in place. Then dip in epoxy. Slap the top of the water hard and hold on. It WILL get taken.
Been in that situation before. As someone once said about FFing, "Match the Hatch". If chow is the standard hatch, give it to em.

(Fire in the Hole!!!!!!!!!)
You may catch some flack, as I may telling you this, but let them laugh as YOUR reel screams while THEIR jaws drop.
Adapt and Overcome. Carpe Diem.

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Life is too short to fish bait chunkin holes!!!


[This message has been edited by Lee Dawg (edited 08-04-2001).]

[Gray ghost]

If your going to go go all the way. The Beadhead Chow Bugger is the only way to go. Thrown across and down with a little action should really turn them on.

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[J Byrd]

Hey Mike, I think you spooked them but they didn't run from you. Sometimes stockers will just hang out rather than run from you. When this happens they wont eat. If they are holdovers in an area that is not pellet fed, they are eating bugs. I'd go back and sneak up to the hole and cast something like a BH Prince and see what happens. Just don't let them see ya. Good luck.

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J. Byrd
Kid tested, mother approved!

It was written: We are born to die. Let us cover a lot of water in that time.

[Ho_Li_Cao]

Anybody know where I can find a good corn pattern?

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Oh brother...

[BLACK KNIGHT]

Yep, Ho. I agree with Byrd. Spooked fish with lockjaw.

[Flashback]

Tie on a yellow egg pattern with some floatant to keep it riding high. Then cast the fly just above the fish so the fly doesn't have time to sink much. Please pinch down the barb cause the trout tend to take this combo deep into their throats.

Good Luck and Good Fishing.

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[The Owl]

I could tell you about the "hatchery cast" but then I'd have to.....well you know. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif

Sounds like the bruiser I saw at the ponds at Cherokee this weekend. About a 4 pound bow, sitting in a run....no telling how many anglers tried to catch him while we were there watching people fish for about 15 minutes....think 2 or 3 or 4 people tried to get him. he prob. eats the other trout after dark! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif


Owl

Lee - you go ! Match whatever hatch ! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif

[fly on the wall]

Mike:
This has worked for me on a number of heavily fished streams with "educated" trout.
All too often we approach the stream and fish just like the last 100 anglers have. You can actually see where the slim has been worn off the rocks from everyone standing in the same spot. Try approaching those fish from another angle or learn to throw a hook cast that will drop a fly behind and on the other side of the fish. They will often take. When you've throw everything that "matches the hatch" try something oddball. On one very tough outing on the Toot in the middle of August, those squirrelly rascals turned down everything from a elk hair to a black woolly. I finally caught one the largest brownies I've caught on the Toot with a #8 brown over orange clouser minnow.

[BRAZ]

Way to go FTOW. Nothing could be truer.

When all else fails throw the ugliest thing in the box!

BRAZ

Lee Dawg,
The epoxi is drying as I type.

[Lee Dawg]

Oh NOOOO! Good luck with the epoxy chow. It has came through for me more than once. I just can't figure out how to get the epoxy smell off and the chow smell back on. If you figure that out, let me know.
Dawg

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[B983]

If I remeber it right, it WAS the oldest UGLIEST fly he had,that Braz used last yr at Cherokee to catch a 4 1/2 lber http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
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Brent

[pschlemm]

I believe the epoxy chow would NOT qualify as an artificial lure - what's everyone else think?

[Windknot]

pschlemm, I think you've just described the ultimate "Ranger's discretion" issue. Even if it's completely sealed with epoxy, it still started as a real, nutritional item, and if he's not having a good day... http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/frown.gif

Do any of us (as metro Atlantans) want to stand in front of a Lumpkin County judge and try to 'splain that away? I'll pass, thank you.
Don

[fishnpreacher]

Page 33 of the Ga 2001-2002 fishing regulations define artificial as "any lure which is made completely of natural or colored wood, cork, feathers, hair, rubber, metal, plastic tinsel, styrofoam, sponge, or string, or any combination of such materials in imitation of or as a substitute of natural bait. This does not includeany item sprayedwith or containing scented or chemical attractants." I don't think trout chow qualifies.

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[Lee Dawg]

I agree guys. I don't think it qualifies as artifical either. Just a point to which I was driven in the insanity of the sport. Never know what you'll do to catch a 12 pound trout. It was developed and used on a piece of private water where the fish were huge and well fed.

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Life is too short to fish bait chunkin holes!!!