View Full Version : Getting bored...
09-24-04, 09:26 PM
Have the political threads been banned or what? My blood pressure is getting dangerously low. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif
09-24-04, 10:08 PM
The first debate is only a few days away. I'm sure things will get very "lively" soon.
We'd better all stock-up on our medications.
Danny, WE don't ban here at NGTO, contrary to popular belief! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif
The Ole Man
09-25-04, 12:02 AM
The political hash got pretty quiet around here. I'm very surprised someone hasn't jumped on the Forum article in the latest issue of Fly Fisherman Magazine (Dec 2004). Maybe the FFMag readers just don't want to acknowledge it. The title is "Bushwhack, Ransack, Pillage, and Plunder" by Ralph Cutter. Ralph runs a flyfishing school and writes "Cutters Corner" for World Waters. A little flavor from the article: "In a little over three years, Bush has set in motion a tsunami of environmental destruction that is unlikely to be completely stopped, much less mitigated, in any of our lifetimes." There's the bait boys---grab it and run. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
09-25-04, 01:44 PM
Yeah, Jack, that should get the ball rolling. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
09-25-04, 02:48 PM
The last political thread that got started was quickly deleted. Come debate kittens with us, it's mellow enough to make it past the censors.
09-25-04, 04:53 PM
OK Danny, maybe this will start something
And for you lefties, there is a bush girl site too
If you go through life and miss me, you missed nothing. If you go through life and miss Jesus, you missed everything
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09-26-04, 01:10 PM
Bill, that is hilarious! The Bush site is pretty funny too.
I'm beginning to think Photoshop should be outlawed. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif
Danny, as far as debates.. lets see
Mr Kerry ( zzzz and audience snores_
Mr Bush ( Stay the course, Smirk, stay the course, smirk. then more smirking)
Then Fox declares bush and slice bread are the best things ever
CNN states Kerry wowed the audience and really made inroads with the swing voters
ABC,NBC Etc.. state the debate was fair, but boring and not real suprises with the answers
I talked to a bunch of ya all at the Unicoi Days and not one dissenting voice on teh political pieces here. Everyone thinks its hard sometimes to know who is kiddin, who is just yanking chains playing devils advocate, etc.. but all either ignored this section or just kinda moved on.
Everyone though stated one thing and I have stated to all of you before.. Dont get personal on the attacks!!! And remember there are some youngins out there reading these threads too!!
So take a kid fishing
It was because the stars sure were nice Fri-sat night...you just look up and see the clouds, but it was a good way to avoid a subject...
I was listening to one of the spin doctors from the Bush camp this morning. He said that Bush's preparations for the dabates was doubly hard on Bush because Kerry takes a stand on Both sides of the issues, He went oin to say that Bush had competed his preparations and was 'clearing his mind' for the debate. I had to laugh because there is something to the spin doctor's words, but things should even out since Bush has a definite advantage in the 'emptying his head' department.
Just got back from Wyoming, Old Man, and saw the article in FFM but haven't had a chance to read it. I can guess as to its direction and will be the main reason I might hesitate just before I make my mark in November.
Actually, CBS would produce a "top-secret memo" circulated within the Bush camp that showed Bush Sr. used his position as ex-president to influence the coin-toss determining which side of the stage W. stood on.
Follower of Christ
Pursuer of trout
We're gonna need one for Fox too.
Fox will just produce via secret channels a memo from africa that shows without a doubt that Kerry can indeed speak a foreign language and that his wife was born outside our country.
In all seriousness though, does it not irk you that the candidates are not allowed to debate nor question each other. I mean he!! i could just read their stump speeches and call it a debate. Where is the outrage of joe citizen that doesnt know the stump speeches by heart yet? Why does the American people accept the fact our future presidential candidates wont question and answer one another? It is pathetic is what it is..
and both candidates trying to play down their effectiveness in order to seem more effective? That is all we need is more dunces acting like bigger dunces so that the dunces in the audience will vote for the person who shows that he isnt the dunce that he portrayed.
Our country needs a 3rd party or a 4th... (sorry bout the rant folks)
I will probably not watch the debates...what they should do is put Bush and Kerry in a closed room with no reporters and no audience and just film it. That should be interesting!
09-29-04, 06:48 PM
i agree with all you stated. also, no matter what happens in the debate, both candidates will "spin" the outcome in their favor. and don't forget the vp debates, they will be sitting behind a desk together, having a "discussion"....?? Whatever happened to allowing average citizens (that aren't screened for their party affliation) to ask some tough questions?
09-29-04, 06:52 PM
What would really be interesting would be watching Laura Bush and Teresa Kerry in a closed room. One could only image what the two would say to each other. :0
09-29-04, 10:45 PM
I'll Second GutHooked's AMEN! to JeffG.
The lack of a middle road with common sense and a set of REAL BALLS. Everything is either one extream or the other. I don't give a rat's A** about Kerry's time in Nam or Bush's National Guard BS.
What ever happened to the TRUTH! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif
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Lone Wolf, would that be a mud wrestling event?
09-30-04, 10:29 AM
"...dunces acting like bigger dunces so that the dunces in the audience will vote for the person who shows that he isnt the dunce that he portrayed"
Yep, that about sums up politics.
- Honk if you love peace and quiet.
Greg though, imho, the extremes of both parties are what the candidates are playing too, because they are the folks that vote.
The folks who want a middle ground,or god forbid moderation, are the folks so turned off by the mudslingin , name calling , avoidance of the issues that they dont vote.
And then these will be the same people who complain that the country is heading in the wrong direction
But maybe we should have a good nature bet here... not on who will win, but on what is the % of registered voters who actually vote.
I say 47%
and that is pathetic because there are things hinging on this election.. not just the war, but the nomination of supreme court justices, etc..
Question for the day. the % of registered voters is what % of the US voting age population??
09-30-04, 11:56 AM
let's see we can let the company be blown to shreds by terrorists ..... or let the environment be taken from us .... tearing our country to shreds. geezus there is just not a lot of choice in this matter is there.
and these so called debates???? gee that is an excercise in futility. i mean really if you got a straight answer on one single question by both men debating, I would go into thermal shock.
people imho are dying for some moderation in parties of the political variety and are being left out as the the two parties lean more and more toward the extreme. i really think we need a "montgomery brewster 'none of the above'" vote. I think both candidates are nimrods. I don't want to vote honestly being there is nothing worth voting for. So, that being said, I will just vote against someone else. I think honestly a lot of people feel the way I do, helpless, when it comes to matters of politics.
Politics are no longer to help people or represent, but are a means to garner more power. I suppose there are a few good ones out there, few and far between though, they may be.
AT this point I think I am gonna be jumping ship to the democrat side if nothing else to vote for the environment. Oh dear god .... please help me!!!!!!
when all is said and done .... more will be said than done
It would only be a marginal improvement, but if the politicians ever ask us if we want an 'open primary system' let's say "yes".
It's not likely that they will ask because the party primaries favor the lunatic fringe within both parties.
In an open primary system, we have a better shot at getting someone like McCain or Powell to the main event. No way that's going to happen with the current structure.
Owl,how ya doin.
Remeber everyone, civil is as civil does.
we all remain civil I am fine with it.
If Anyone compares or states who ever they disagree with is a terrorist then we have a problem, sorry folks but dissent is part of debate which ties back to those golden rules called the bill of rights.
And for Everyone. keep it civil, dont get personal, and we dont intentionally try and **** one another off then we are fine.
Now.. back to the topic...
No guesses yet on the % of registered voters compared to the % of eligible voters?
(its a rather pathetic statistic.. almost as bad as how many people actually vote)
ps: if you all are upset with current mgmt pls let the BOD know too.. thanks..
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We SAY we want a discussion of the issues. But most of us really like stuff like the Swift Boat smear more. We get the campaigns we deserve.
10-01-04, 12:21 AM
I really don't see where Bush is so far right. Most of his domestic policy looks to me to be a watered-down version of that of the democrats. I don't see where an extreme conservative signs bills to shell out billions for prescription drugs or education. Shouldn't we take responsibility for some things ourselves?
I can't really tell if Kerry is liberal, moderate, or what. I just can't keep up.
As for the voter numbers, I have no idea what they are, but I'm sure they are pathetic.
I don't particularly like Bush's environmental policies, but I don't think they are the disaster that the left makes them out to be, either. There is just no way that I can believe that its a big enough issue to sway a rational person's vote, with everything else that is on the table right now.
Hey Danny, Are ya Bored now! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif
And their OFF....! http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
10-01-04, 06:32 PM
Man, I've been down so long I'm having a little trouble getting my brain kickstarted. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/wink.gif This is getting better. Hopefully it will stay civil and we can have some fun with it for a while. http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/ubbngto/smile.gif
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