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01-18-06, 04:13 PM
I had my meeting with Gary Biuser from the DNR at my house on the Cartecay, nice man he is..Gary said the feed along will draw the fish to me on both river side and island side, just feed them and they will come.
He gave me some great ideas and what I will be doing on the structure building. So all you fella's that are willing to help out, be ready to bring your strong backs and plenty of wheaties before you arrive.
PS - No chainsaw will be needed, I will be using boulders to build the structure, the nice thing is my niebor is buidling a house next to me, he has lots of boulders that they dug up for the house location, I am friends with the builder so he will be hauling the boulders over with a back hoe and piling them up beside the river section where the structure will me added.
It is perfect that I will have all the boulders and rock that will be needed right next door too me and the fact that a back hoe will be bringing the rock too me.
Well I just spoke with Gary Beiser of the DNR, Bill Couch instructed me to call him, he is coming out friday afternoon to help me coming up with a plan on some structire adding in the part of the river that splits left of the big island on my property. Looks like I will need a permit which wont be that diffulcult to get. Bill advised me that I would need a permit to stock trout as well, he suggested that I would not need to stock trout since all the feeders up river from me are already in place. He said just put out a feeder and feed twice a day and watch the trout come for breakfast and dinner :D
He said the Purina Floating food is what he used and what he recommends.
So, looks like when I get back from texas in 2 weeks I will ring the dinner bell
I'll let everyone know what Gary says friday on the structure adding..
01-18-06, 04:57 PM
Im in, let us know ahead of time when your ready to do the work, that way we can make plans to come up and lend a hand.
The Ole Man
01-18-06, 05:51 PM
MO---Gary will steer you right. I know him as a fellow Judge at the Rome TU Chili Cookoff. He has been steering the Ga Sturgeon restorartion program for several years. Once you get those fish trained to the feeder, it will look like a piranhna attack when the feed hits the water. You won't have to worry about the feed floating away downstream.
01-18-06, 07:56 PM
You know I'm ready. Heck, I already....hmm....I want to say rode your tree but that sounds rough though it's very literally what I did...I'd be glad to explain that one this weekend to you guys whose brows just rose. You know I'll be there. Brandon, you were there, you saw.
I guess I didn't know anything about feeding trout on a stream like that. I would've assumed sinking food would be better. Makes perfect sense that they would figure it out quickly. I guess it's obvious that some of those fish are already trained. I caught one on a pellet fly on about the 2nd or 3rd cast I'd ever tried one.
01-18-06, 10:10 PM
i'm in, post a date and i'll be there to help.
01-19-06, 10:04 AM
Oh Spinboy, we all know you like to hug those tree's, BrandonT and I saw you hug or mount a tree or whatever you were doing everytime we looked back at you you were headed to the bank going for another tree :D
There wont be any structure work done until Gary comes out and tells me whats best, and then I'll have to go get a permit from the county.
I found a place in Blueridge just above me that has the Purina Aqua Max 600 fish pellets ( $25.00 for a 50 lb bag )
I will be getting 2 bags this week-end and start feeding the hungry trout and hope I can get those big bows to tell all the other bows about the free food.
Maybe if I am lucky, the fish pellets I serve them will be better than what their use to eating and will make permanent residence at my portion of the river .
I'll let everyone know when I need their help for the log & boulder moving, SpinBoy, we'll let you have all the tree's you want :eek:
See everyone tomorrow at the ami ..
01-19-06, 10:10 AM
Spinboy sure loves to "ride" those trees. When you see him drop his waders and approach a tree, just run away! ;)
01-19-06, 10:12 AM
I'm still a long way from being a tree hugger or a "purist". After all, I did catch a bow on a pellet fly. I think some here especially witnesses to that (Brandon) would say that was a very "Bubba" of me to do. That won't stop me though. I bought more.
I did literally hug and ride a tree across the river for those of you wondering. This is getting weird....
01-19-06, 10:52 AM
I would never have admitted to that one :D
Your going to make all these wood pecker's mad if you keep violating their nesting holes... :yikes:
And yes I wittnessed the pellet fly, heck I tried throwing a real pellet on a hook just to see if they bit, but noooo, they only wanted the tree hugger's fly, hummmm wonder why that is.... :ghug:
Can you explain that one?
01-19-06, 11:16 AM
Why am I a tree hugger? I used a real pellet too after losing the fly pellet and caught fish....we are going to get in trouble with these folks if we keep talking about pellet fishing. :D The conditions were horrendous on that day or I wouldn't have done it. I know, some of you wouldn't do it out of principle but I really wanted to pet a fish.
01-19-06, 11:25 AM
ya think all these fella's that are dead against using the spin, you think when they come to the Cartecay after the feeders are put up and I have the trout trained, ya think they wont put on a pellet fly if everything else they throw aint working?? petting a trout sure beats going home not smelling like a fish :D
01-19-06, 11:39 AM
Garrett, did you ever get out last weekend... or did you ditch it?
01-19-06, 11:49 AM
After being gone so long out of town the wifey didnt want me to leave her side... I definately am hitting it this week-end, how about you? interested.
Since it hasnt been fished now for over 3 weeks, they sure are to be fiesty trout ...
01-19-06, 12:21 PM
catching fish is fun, i don't care what i have to throw in front of them. by the way catching a 25" pellet feed fish is alot more fun than catching a 10" wild fish. this statment is in response to what someone said a few weeks ago. that they would much rather catch a 10" wild trout than a 20" pellet fed fish.
01-19-06, 12:26 PM
I agree, after all , just because they are pellet fed doesnt make them less wilder, afterall they are just as free to roam like all the others, if they want to stay around and fatten themselves up on high protein pellets who are we to put them on a diet ? to see the look on the faces of my friends when they catch one of these monsters its all worth throwing some pellets out .
01-19-06, 01:03 PM
What about your hook-jawed fish Moss? I think you liked that one too. They even feed fish at some of the purists favorite trophy streams on occassion. Some of the fish are stocked!
You guys that haven't need to read some John Gierach books. I've only recently started reading his stuff but he brings a lot of light to this. Even out West most streams are not half as wild as people believe them to be.
Oh, he's quite funny at times too...very much worth reading.
01-19-06, 01:07 PM
I know the C&R is the way to go, but that old hook jawed one I caught end of dec sure was a beautiful sight, if I had only taken his measurements for the taxidermist, I hope I can catch him again one day..
I sent you an email go read it and let me know what you think, I found us a sweet fishing boat !
Fishing a pellet fly is one thing, but I know a certain someone who tried his darnest to get one of those pellet's to stay on a bare hook.. Hmmm, now who could this have been??...lol
Mossy, I'll be at the show this Sat giving DO7 my latest Chevy jokes ;), you wanna get out Sunday and wet a line????
01-19-06, 02:04 PM
yes I plan on razzing dad of plenty on his GMC at the show myself, I cant believe the O'Fish-Al truck isnt a Chevrolet...
And yes I plan on trying my luck sunday, the water should have calmed down by then if we dont get anymore rain..
And the fish pellet attempt was made by myself as well, I wont give up the other fella's name :D
But I can assure you, in the next couple of days, there will be plenty of fish pellet in the water for the dinner bell..
The Ole Man
01-19-06, 02:37 PM
Yep spinb---those Trophy places have to feed their fish 3 or 4 times a week. If they aren't fed they will leave. MOak---if you can hand feed at different spots, that is better imo than an automatic feeder. If the fish are fed at the same spot all the time they will all congregate near there waiting on the food. Makes them too vulnerable and easy to catch around the feeder and less likely to occupy your whole river section. You should ask Gary about this when he comes out. Most of the pay to fish places feed by hand traveling on a 4 wheeler to cover the whole river section.
01-19-06, 03:14 PM
thats good advice, I think I will throw out in different spots and wait on the fish feeder...i'm anxious to see what Gary has to say as well on the structure
01-19-06, 03:32 PM
I talked with Aaron Sago today and he said if you don't buy a truck from me you have to go to Southeastern Flyfishing Forum ;) .
Just kidding...wait until you see what I bring to the show. 2006 Pontiac Solstice...the O-Fish-Al sportscar of NGTO!!! LOL
01-19-06, 03:39 PM
pontiac, whatever happen to good ol' chevrolet ???? :bang:
Mossy, I'll see ya at the show Sat. We'll see how the weather is doing and plan from there.. If you get out to fish today or tomorrow, throw some big WB's while the water is up and a lil cloudy and see what happens.... As for the stream work, I just got an elec chainsaw, if you have the power to run it :D
01-19-06, 04:09 PM
well I was getting a gas powered chainsaw this week-end, but......drum roll ..............
my wife is leaving me, so, the chainsaw will have to wait for alittle while until I figure out what the big " D " is costing me...
But to answer your question on the power, yes I do have power wired down by the small island, I dont like the thought of using electric around wet areas though :yikes:
So wish me luck on the big " D " fella's :(
01-19-06, 04:40 PM
Mossy, I am very, very sorry to hear this. If I can do anything please let me know.
01-19-06, 06:06 PM
Thx a bunch, just come fishing with me sometime...
Ouch!! Man i'm sorry to hear that!!! Dont quite know what to say on that note, but hope things can get worked out..
As far as the electric chainsaw goes, ya i'd be stuck on the house side of the island for sure, but it's all I needed for here around the house..
01-19-06, 08:20 PM
Dang dude... sorry to hear that!!! Hopefully you can get things worked out smoothly.
I think we can let Spinboy run the electric chainsaw. He's a big boy. I think he can handle a little jolt ;)
01-19-06, 08:56 PM
The chainsaw is for you little guys that can't pick up trees and move em.
01-19-06, 10:30 PM
yep we all know what spinboy likes to do with those tree's now dont we ?
as for as if things work out on the home front, fat chance, its been dead way before the flame started..
I ask myself: why why why why why, oh well, life does go on....
just leaves me more time to go fishing....
I'll see yaw tomorrow and saturday
01-20-06, 12:52 AM
mossy, sorry to hear about the "d", but that just means more time you can spend on the water!
01-20-06, 11:49 AM
Soory to here that, but...now we have a real excuse to get drunk and tell fish tales after a long day of pulling trophies out of the Cartecay! :D You better make sure she doesn't take the section of river in the big "D" :bang:
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