Big Snowbird Creek

[BearGoneFishing]

Has any body been on or in the area of Big Snowbird Creek in Robbinsville, NC. Looking to head that way if the water temp is good and the fish haven't worked to much. A good outfitter in that area would also bfe appreciated.

Thanks

[nuggetlegs]

It's a really nice creek, lots of water with lots of places to fish and lots of fun at the headwaters. The lower section is supposed to be nice but I didn't fish it very much and the parts that I did are not worth mentioning. I would recommend checking out the headwaters of slickrock too if you are going to be in the area. It's about 30-45 minutes outside of Robbinsville and the fishing be great. Word.

With regards to outfitters I did not visit any up there. The typical small trout stream flies ought to work well and you don't need a guide.

[Reel'em In]

The headwaters to either stream will require several miles of walking.

If you feel you need a guide, check out Daniel Boone. You can look him up under the members list and send him an email. I would not use the pm, don't think he gets on here too often. Has been very helpful to me in the past.

[BearGoneFishing]

Thanks for the feedback. Do you know how far a hike it is to the headwaters of slickrock?

[nuggetlegs]

About 2 miles downhill. It sucks coming back up but if you take your time it's not too bad. You'll need to hike an additional ~.5 mile or so upstream to get to the good waters. I would liken the trail to that of Betty gap on the Conasauga. It's a nice creek and not many folks fish the headwaters. If you go lower you can catch some monster browns too.

[Labrador]

but keep in mind......yeah, I know it's NC, but I think most of the small stream guys you are asking here would agree this extends beyond Georgia (why it doesn't I have no idea, or does it???).

NGTO Etiquette Concerning the Small Streams Forum Specifically

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The posting of sensitive stream names and details is one of the most contentious subjects with trout fishermen. We ask that you please be wary of and refrain from posting sensitive stream names and information on the message board. Because of their small size and the pressure that even a single angler can place on them, small streams containing wild trout (especially brook trout in Georgia) are considered the most sensitive to publicity.

Although it may be reasonably argued that there are no secret streams in Georgia that point is not relevant to this notice. The reason NGTO “works” is because members practice respect and restraint toward fellow trout anglers. The enjoyment that NGTO brings to many members can be replaced by irritation if what they consider some of their favorite spots (on any stream, anywhere, as a matter of fact) be broadcast to the public. The administrators of this website support this position and have posted here what was up until this time an unwritten rule concerning the most sensitive of Georgia’s streams.

If you are in need of information about these particular types of streams, use tact and the privacy features available here such as email and private messaging to contact members about streams you may want to discuss. Many folks are often more willing to share privately what they do not want posted publicly. Remember though, simply because you ask does not mean anybody has to answer. NGTO is a voluntary organization as well as a trout angling community and nobody is required/expected to answer questions they choose not to answer.

There are other sources of stream information such as several NGTO face to face gatherings where the topic can be discussed. Trout Unlimited functions, the Department of Natural Resources and at least three well known “for profit” publications may all be sources of detailed trout stream information. The other functions that are a wealth of information to trout fishermen seeking information along these lines are trout stream restoration projects. Demonstrate by attending a “stream work project” that you have the best interests of the sport of trout fishing in mind and you will probably receive more info than you could ever use.

Thanks.

[nuggetlegs]

Since both the big snowbird and slickrock are large and very well known I don't think that they are sensitive information. Plus I did not mention directions on how to get there nor specifics as to fish species. I think it would be the equivalent of mention Jack's River, Mountaintown, or the Conasauga. Discretion as to which streams should be mentioned or what advice should be exercised but if a stream is well known and also mentioned in a book it shouldn't matter.

[chuckwagon]

I couldn't disagree more!!!
No Names please. PM info if you must. I did!!
Trey
CW

[Labrador]

I couldn't disagree more!!!
No Names please. PM info if you must. I did!!
Trey
CW


Trey,
I agree with your disagreement 100%. What part of the new rules don't you understand nuttleggs? The only thing you gain by posting it publicly is making a lot of people mad (the real small streamers), and at best a few people get to fish a place, at worst go fish a place after it's been outted on NGTO and see what happens. I know a great stream in the Blue Ridge Area that was Outted here, and then the reports came flooding in. I think it's recovered, but I know many wrote that place off due to the outting here on this board, and the flood of folks stomping around up there each day. It was a total shame. I would hate for that to happen again, and yes this stream near Blue Ridge is fairly well known or public knowledge as you claim, but nothing could of prepared it for it being NGT-Blowed away by fisherman. I guess it pads your ego as well since you can announce to the whole world your fishing knowledge. There are plenty of people on here who know a lot about fishing, so brag through you photos (that's what people want to see), and not what you read in a book, or you vast knowlegde of "public knowledge". I sent plenty of info in PM, and tried to point out to bear that yes he could get the info, but to use discretion in naming wild streams, and that what at least me a Trey feel, and I am positive we are not alone. I love Snowbird and yes it's in books, but I bet that most of the people on this board lurking wouldn't think of it. There seemed to be enough trash up there when I was there this spring, so why advertise the place? Not much to worry about though cause a 5+ mile hike should keep most away.

Just follow the rules, and this place stays cool and happy. It's really not that hard.


EG here. I'm tacking onto this post for two reasons. First, the thread tended to go down hill with baiting back and forth after this post and I'm trying to clear that up. Second, tacking onto this post allows me not to bump the thread up to the top.

If you guys want to argue what NGTO should do about out of state streams, I posted a "Clarification" thread in this forum you can post to and hope fully resolve some of these issues.

Fair warning: we're trying to resolve this issue. Anybody that wants to toss gasoline on this issue by posting this thread again will find your access denied to NGTO to the point you won't even be able to view the board. I'll then put that access denial to a vote with the BOD and at the rate we tend to vote it will probably be about a month before it is resolved!