View Full Version : Buying a sinking weight line, but they are stocked out of 5 WT
Da Da's Fishing
02-03-12, 11:15 AM
Orvis is selling their 80.00 sinking line for 17.00. They are out of 5 WT, but have 4 or 6. Do I get a class 2 in 4 wt or a class 3 in 6 wt? I'll be stripping streamers on the hooch hunting big browns. I'm fishing a TFO Lefty Kreh professional 5 WT 9ft.
DD F
lewdogg
02-03-12, 11:47 AM
I don't think you have the correct rod for the application, but i would go with the six weight if I had to choose. I have that rod in a six weight and it is a little under-gunned for sinking lines.
Where is this deal?
Da Da's Fishing
02-03-12, 12:03 PM
I don't think you have the correct rod for the application, but i would go with the six weight if I had to choose. I have that rod in a six weight and it is a little under-gunned for sinking lines.
Where is this deal?
It is on Orvis' website. As for the rod, yea, I am a little under gunned, but I'm not dropping 100.00+ for a new rod.
DD F
sparsehackle
02-03-12, 12:36 PM
Your TFO Professional rod may be a bit limber to effectively and repeatedly pull a full sinking line out of the water for the next cast. Another cost-effective alternative is to try Orvis' instant sink tips. For about $13 you get two 4-5 ft sections of sink tip. I've used them individually and both together for more weight. They're not pretty to cast, but they willl turn over any streamer you have and keep them reasonably well down. For better depth control, on the retrieve, keep you rod tip near the water.
Once you've had some experience using the sink tip system, for a total investment of $13, you'll probably be in a better position to judge the merits of other fly line/fly rod combos, e.g. integrated sink tips of various weights, full sink, shooting heads, stiffer vs. more limber rods, etc.
IMHO the Orvis sink tip system is a good, cost effective place to start playing around with sinking lines.
lewdogg
02-03-12, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the heads up on the deal. I went ahead and ordered the six weight class III, came out to $25.22 with shipping and tax. I have a heavier 6 weight that I plan on using it on.
I really don't know what to tell you on the 5 weight rod, it may work fine or it may feel like lobbing a grenade when you try and cast it.
Da Da's Fishing
02-03-12, 01:02 PM
I'm not making a habit out of slinging the big stuff, I'm just going to go out with Mog one day... Can I rig some shot at the fly line end of the tippet to add weight?
Jamie
lewdogg
02-03-12, 01:15 PM
I'm not making a habit out of slinging the big stuff, I'm just going to go out with Mog one day... Can I rig some shot at the fly line end of the tippet to add weight?
Jamie
That sounds like it would cast terribly. You're probably better off just using heavy flies for the day.
Da Da's Fishing
02-03-12, 01:21 PM
That sounds like it would cast terribly. You're probably better off just using heavy flies for the day.
Heavy flies it is!
DD F
mwmclaughlin1908
02-03-12, 02:14 PM
You may want to check with one of the sponsors that sell Orvis gear, Unicoi, Fish Hawk, etc or even call the Orvis retail store in Buckhead. On more than one occasion I have contacted a retail dealer when the website was out of a sale item and they sometimes have the item in stock and will honor the web price. good luck either way
:cheers:
That rod is definitely too soft to be overlining the rod. If you want that rod in a 6wt I have one and I would gladly sell it to you. I use it as a backup.
Da Da's Fishing
02-03-12, 03:56 PM
That rod is definitely too soft to be overlining the rod. If you want that rod in a 6wt I have one and I would gladly sell it to you. I use it as a backup.
I appreciate the offer, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to commit to a new rod yet. If I find myself hunting stripper, carp, or other large species, I may look at an 8 weight. I was mostly just looking for a cheap way to get some sink in my line for my trip.
DD F
S.Trutta
02-03-12, 04:33 PM
I appreciate the offer, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to commit to a new rod yet. If I find myself hunting stripper, carp, or other large species, I may look at an 8 weight. I was mostly just looking for a cheap way to get some sink in my line for my trip.
DD F
This is going to be such a miserable combo to try and cast you wont stick with it long. I understand not wanting to spend lots of money and get too specialized in gear, but this style of fishing with heavy sink tips is alot different than most standard fly fishing and the demands on the rod are alot different.
A fast 9ft 6wt is the minimum in my mind, a 9ft 7wt is better and a 9ft 8wt is probably the most versatile as it can branch out to stripers, carp, saltwater, steelhead, salmon, etc.
Rich
DDF - Glad your keeping our plan in mind. Don't worry about gearing up. We'll work out a plan that will give you some options that will help you figure out what you want to do in the long term. Stay tuned.
When I lived up north we used these for stealhead in the GL tribs. Worked much better than having to carry extra spools rigged with different sink tips. If I were fishing the big rivers out west, like the Deschuttes, I'd take the time to have multiple sink tip lines. For trout, get the sinking leaders instead.
Airflo has some great ones. They. Have 5', 10', and 14' in different sink rates, for both trout and steelies. I've got many and for trout and find myself using the fast and extra fast sink rates in 10 ft length. I use them for ripping streamers on the Hootch. You still get that erratic action that you want when throwing streamers but you can change sink rates as often as needed. I toss everythhing from light weight Polly flies to zoo cougars on my SLT 5 wt. No issues with the rod handling the weight. Just learn to open your loop q bit and shoot line with only one back cast.
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