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    The trophy section of Dukes Creek in Smithgall Woods is one of the best, and definitely among the most challenging, trout streams in the South. Many anglers from all over are drawn in by its combination of low cost (just the cost of a parking pass), accessibility, pristine water, and the possibility of tangling with a big rainbow or brown trout in a small stream setting.

    Since there always seems to be someone here on NGTO asking about Dukes, I'd like to suggest adding a sticky to this forum that includes some suggestions that might lead to increased success here.

    I'm definitely not the best Dukes angler around. But I do know and have fished with several who have done very well on this water. Based on what I've learned from them, here's what I would suggest (and for those of you who are successful there, please add your knowledge to this thread):

    1. It is imperative to stay out of sight of the fish at Dukes. If you can see them, they have already seem you! Wear dark/drab clothing, even camo, move slowly and stay low. Fish UPSTREAM to fish who are looking into the current. If you're behind them, they likely won't see you!

    2. Dukes Creek generally has two faces:

    A. When the water is low and clear: When conditions are like this, you need to go "long and light" to have success. Practically this means using long, light leaders (9-12-feet down to 5X, 6X or sometimes even 7X... Yikes!). You'll also need to downsize your fly selections in most cases. Flies like Zebra Midges, Disco Midges, WD-40s, or Soft-Hackle Pheasant Tails in sizes 18-22 can be good choices. If you need to use a strike indicator, keep it small, as well.

    B. When the water is high and muddy: When conditions are like this, most people with reservations to fish Dukes will turn around and go home because, "There's no way you can catch a fish in chocolate milk!" When, in fact, for a lot of Dukes regulars, these are the prime big-fish conditions! And you can just about throw out suggestion number one and 2(A)! The big fish typically move out of the deep holes and runs where they usually sit and spread out into the areas that are usually low and wide to get out of the surging current that is now rushing through those deeper areas. In short, where you're usually wading when it's low is where big fish should be holding during high and muddy conditions. For leaders and flies, these conditions call for "big and ugly"! You can fish just about any leader you'd like (why not go 0X and take some stress out of your day? also, keep it shorter... something like a 7' works well) and now is the time to bust out the huge streamers. Big size 2-6 woolly buggers in white, purple, black or olive are great. Sculpin patters, rainbow trout patterns (if you're searching for a big brown), articulated patterns... You get it. And add plenty of split shot about ten inches from your fly to sink the fly in the fast water.

    You need a valid Georgia fishing license and trout stamp AND a reservation to fish this portion of Dukes (which is broken up into four beats/sections). The stream is open to a limited number of anglers on Sundays, Wednesdays and Saturdays all year. To make a reservation, call (706) 878-3087.
    Last edited by Trout8myfly; 10-20-12, 09:00 PM. Reason: No longer a sticky suggestion :)
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    Great suggestions. Also great to see you back.
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    • #3
      Thanks - I've got a few days off of work to help with our new daughter, so I've been looking around here a little bit for the first time in a while!
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      • #4
        good general guidelines. I will say however that fly selection plays a backseat role to patience and presentation. Patience in that those fish will eventually get used to your pressence and will settle back down. Presentation in that you've gotta have a good drag free drift.

        some more good info: http://www.gon.com/article.php?id=3184&cid=124

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        • #5
          Patience.



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          • #6
            Probably the best on fishing Dukes-

            Probably the bist tip on fishing dukes - Try not to fish after Kelly, Hoochbuster, Landon, Simmsflyguy or Creech!
            Last edited by bigorangefan; 11-04-12, 04:21 PM.

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            • #7
              Patience!
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              • #8
                7x? Wow, I have never gone heavier than 8x at dukes...
                Good tips.
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                • #9
                  thanks david....ps...your book is fabulous; I use it as a fly fishing reference. I have yet to fish Dukes but it is on my bucket list. tell chad hello

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                  • #10
                    Thanks David...tips appreciated to someone who has definitely scared more than i have hooked at Dukes...so true about the "stealth" things...this fly fishing will definitely teach you long-suffering
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                    • #11
                      I think patience applies to all trout fishing. Dukes has fish stacked up due to low water so stealthiness is really key. Stay low, and fish smart. Work the inside seam, then the middle, then the outside. Fish the tailouts first and then work your way up the run. Don't overline the fish. When you hook one, try and work it out the backside of the pool to keep from spooking the others. Granted this can be hard when one of the pigs grabs your fly.
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                      • #12
                        Headed up to Duke's for the first time on Nov. 20. Thanks for this thread. I plan on putting some of this info to use.
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                        • #13
                          spot on

                          I will say that 2flys post is pretty much spot on. I will however say that my experience the last two times at Dukes on section 1, is a lot like the Davidson. Fish have gotten use to pressure. May initially freak out, then will come right back and settle in, be still and they will start to feed. Even had a pig on running in a run, and two other trout were following it, and one grabbed my dropper fly. Double in the Net!

                          One of the runs in particular has about 15-20 fish of nice size in it. was careful on approach etc, got up to run started nymphing. Caught a fish, fish freaked out, 30 seconds later all back in a group and taking my flies again...pretty crazy the first time, but to have it happen again for a second time led me to the conclusion that section 1 fish have been under considerable pressure and have gotten use to it just like the Davidson beside the hatchery.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by benvan View Post
                            I will say that 2flys post is pretty much spot on. I will however say that my experience the last two times at Dukes on section 1, is a lot like the Davidson. Fish have gotten use to pressure. May initially freak out, then will come right back and settle in, be still and they will start to feed. Even had a pig on running in a run, and two other trout were following it, and one grabbed my dropper fly. Double in the Net!

                            One of the runs in particular has about 15-20 fish of nice size in it. was careful on approach etc, got up to run started nymphing. Caught a fish, fish freaked out, 30 seconds later all back in a group and taking my flies again...pretty crazy the first time, but to have it happen again for a second time led me to the conclusion that section 1 fish have been under considerable pressure and have gotten use to it just like the Davidson beside the hatchery.
                            Congratulations on two fish to hand at the same time!

                            Good analogy regarding the Davidson. It's incredible how much pressure that section by the hatchery receives. The fish and the fishermen are stacked up like cord wood there.
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                            • #15
                              Fishing dukes next wendsdaay anybody else going to be out there?


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