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    The state defines a secondary trout stream as "streams with no evidence of natural trout reproduction but capable of supporting trout throughout the year."

    There are a number of these streams not far from my home in Cherokee Co. Does anyone know if they actually contain trout?

    1. Bluff Creek watershed upstream from Cherokee County Road 114.
    2. Boston Creek watershed.
    3. Murphy Creek watershed.
    4. Pine Log Creek watershed.
    5. Salacoa Creek watershed.
    6. Soap Creek watershed upstream from Cherokee County Road 116.
    7. Stamp Creek watershed.
    8. Wiley Creek watershed.
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    Originally posted by richf7 View Post
    The state defines a secondary trout stream as "streams with no evidence of natural trout reproduction but capable of supporting trout throughout the year."

    There are a number of these streams not far from my home in Cherokee Co. Does anyone know if they actually contain trout?

    1. Bluff Creek watershed upstream from Cherokee County Road 114.
    2. Boston Creek watershed.
    3. Murphy Creek watershed.
    4. Pine Log Creek watershed.
    5. Salacoa Creek watershed.
    6. Soap Creek watershed upstream from Cherokee County Road 116.
    7. Stamp Creek watershed.
    8. Wiley Creek watershed.
    I've gone up a ways on Boston and Stamp, you will not find trout except for the portion of stamp by pine log wma where they stock it. I normally catch spots in those two creeks. As for the other places you mentioned I don't know but you should venture out and see what you find! Last time I was on Stamp this past November I forgot about hunters and came across one with a rifle, I quickly announced my presence and walked back to my truck as I was not wearing orange!

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    • #3
      It's not likely. If there were rainbows, you'd catch some small ones down around where the access is easy. In theory, you could find a rogue population of brookies way up in the headwaters of a secondary trout stream. Practically speaking though, there's pretty much no way...
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      • #4
        Thanks guys.
        All fishermen are liars except you and I...and I’m not so sure about you.

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        • #5
          In my estimation, those streams today would be strictly hatchery supported. Who knows, maybe a token trout carries over but I'd think that's the exception. I would be more open to the quality of those creeks before logging and development silted everything in? Perhaps they were more legit back in the day?

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          • #6
            Any thoughts that perhaps since these are devoid of stockers they may be candidates, in the extreme headwaters, for purr strain SABT reintroduction?

            For that matter can we please get something going in GA to rival what TN is doing to return these fish?
            I like em big fat and sloppy.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by browniez View Post
              Any thoughts that perhaps since these are devoid of stockers they may be candidates, in the extreme headwaters, for purr strain SABT reintroduction?

              For that matter can we please get something going in GA to rival what TN is doing to return these fish?
              Back in college I was developing a GIS model to predict potential brookie reintroduction success based on elevation and drainage size. Unfortunately I didn't have a lot of time to devote to it, and it's all gone now. That being said, I think there are drainages w/o trout that could support brookies, but they are only mediocre candidates for reintroduction, so I would be shocked if you got the state or feds to waste resources trying...
              The first thing scripture tells us about man is that we're made in the image of God. The second thing it says is that man should have dominion over the fishes of the sea.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by browniez View Post
                Any thoughts that perhaps since these are devoid of stockers they may be candidates, in the extreme headwaters, for purr strain SABT reintroduction?

                For that matter can we please get something going in GA to rival what TN is doing to return these fish?
                There are some outstanding candidate streams on the two most northern tracts of Dawson Forest, over 2,000 ft elevation.

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                • #9
                  I know at least two streams that are fishless that are really good candidates, as well. Would be a neat experiment...


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                  • #10
                    I know of a few near Tallulah Falls that I've always felt should have brookies. I wish we lived in a world where a bunch of conservation minded anglers and some researchers could work together to make it happen. Unfortunately, the feds would have an absolute conniption fit
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by buckman1 View Post
                      In my estimation, those streams today would be strictly hatchery supported. Who knows, maybe a token trout carries over but I'd think that's the exception. I would be more open to the quality of those creeks before logging and development silted everything in? Perhaps they were more legit back in the day?
                      You never know if they might not be there, who would have thought Stephens county would be such a prolific Brookie destination?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fishinbub View Post
                        I know of a few near Tallulah Falls that I've always felt should have brookies. I wish we lived in a world where a bunch of conservation minded anglers and some researchers could work together to make it happen. Unfortunately, the feds would have an absolute conniption fit
                        Habitat fragmentation may actually be their death knell over all else.

                        We could always stoop to reservoir/spot/bluebacks bucket biologist skullduggery... I never would, but I'd certainly feel better about in that instance.
                        I like em big fat and sloppy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Big T View Post
                          You never know if they might not be there, who would have thought Stephens county would be such a prolific Brookie destination?
                          This is true...

                          The streams on DF I'm referring to had Brookies until the late 90's when development in the headwaters silted them out. Also messed up the bow fishing in the main creek for a while. The bows have made a comeback. The Brookies will need a little redneck creativity in the form of a cooler in the winter, a minnow bucket, and a few buddies. Shhhh. Just our little secret.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by buckman1 View Post
                            This is true...

                            The streams on DF I'm referring to had Brookies until the late 90's when development in the headwaters silted them out. Also messed up the bow fishing in the main creek for a while. The bows have made a comeback. The Brookies will need a little redneck creativity in the form of a cooler in the winter, a minnow bucket, and a few buddies. Shhhh. Just our little secret.
                            Adult beverages in that there cooler?
                            All fishermen are liars except you and I...and I’m not so sure about you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by buckman1 View Post
                              This is true...

                              The streams on DF I'm referring to had Brookies until the late 90's when development in the headwaters silted them out. Also messed up the bow fishing in the main creek for a while. The bows have made a comeback. The Brookies will need a little redneck creativity in the form of a cooler in the winter, a minnow bucket, and a few buddies. Shhhh. Just our little secret.
                              There are; however, some large mudpuppies that skirt out of the way just right to fool you for a few seconds if you're far enough away. One steep walk out if you're going back up.
                              -skunked

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