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  • #31
    That's really cool Carl. It's be a big project but I know it will be fun. Sorry to learn someone stole the glass boat you and your Dad made.

    I still have my Tateman boat (I'm John from Dry Flyer) in the garage, but am sad to say it hasn't been in the water yet this year. I need to cover the chines on it. Originally I had used the plastic Greg sold, but that has long since gotten brittle and cracked- I like the idea of the aluminum like on your new (old) boat.

    What's holding the anchor rope?

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    • #32
      Thank you Preacher! Lucky for me that you took that class. I think I might invest in that test kit and see what happens. Out of curiosity, why do you say not to use chemical stripper? I agree with you but wonder if you have the same reasons as I do or different ones.

      John! It's great to hear from you! I loved your boat back in the day. Do you have any pictures of it? I don't know what all plans I have for this boat yet but I know that they don't include UHMW for the bottom this time.
      Last edited by Warmouth; 08-06-15, 10:46 PM.
      Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

      And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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      • #33
        I have refinished several old bamboo rods, and was told to stay away from chemical stripped because the chemicals could react with the glue in the bamboo rod. Same applies I would think with plywood. Older woods may have used a natural glue, and not be very chemical friendly.
        Plus, I believe you will have less damage to the wood by scraping dry vs wet with stripper.
        Good luck!
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        • #34
          I am really looking forward to watching this refurb. PLEASE keep us posted with plenty of pics.
          Keith M
          Alpharetta, GA

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          • #35
            She Was GREEN!

            Thanks Keith! I'll look forward to the encouragement. It's going to take a while to get it all done but I will post pics as I go. The good, the bad, and the ugly!

            Why not a few right now?!

            An Oregon native told me that during the 1960s every boat on the McKenzie was green. Keith Steele's grand daughter took one look at this boat and chuckled and said, "Grandpa would have never painted a boat blue." Another guy told me that only after Keith Steele died did non-green Steele boats start showing up. Apparently he encouraged green paint. Well, it's amazing what an hour with a heat gun and paint scraper will reveal. She was originally GREEN! Once I discovered the green paint I slowed way down on the removal and started looking for areas where I could carefully remove the blue and find some areas with good unspoiled green underneath. I have found a few good areas so I am going to try to get a paint store to match the original green. I'll just get a quart mixed up for now so I will have the code to get more later if I decide to go with that. To completely restore it back to it's original form I could paint the entire boat this color, inside and out but I kind of like to see some wood. So I am torn. In one sense I feel this sort of duty to bring her back to original by going all paint. But right now I am leaning towards using this original color on the outside and maybe the floorboards and going oiled on the entire inside to show off the wood grain. What do y'all think?

            I'm falling in love with this boat more and more every day.

            An hour with a heat gun by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

            She was green! by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

            More green! by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

            Green under blue! by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

            More green revealed! by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr
            Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

            And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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            • #36
              Neat stuff Carl!

              Of course I'm partial to the green hull / oiled (or varnished) interior.
              The Drifter

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              • #37
                Green is a good color for a wooden drift boat

                I'll try and post some pics of my boat sometime. I was happy to find your post- had often wondered if you were still down at Calloway, but good to know your out West living the dream! -hope everything is going well for you.

                Have fun with the project, it will be fun to see how you end up restoring it.

                When you need encouragement I'll mail a paint scraper and a dust cloth

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                • #38
                  Making a little progress a half hour at a time. Getting the old paint mostly stripped off on the right side and finding some really clear and beautiful wood under it. So far there are no "footballs," knots, or voids. Really nice grain for douglas fir and a really clean scarf joint.

                  One issue I am having is that the rub strip seems to maybe be glued on. I really need to get it off for the purpose of refinishing the hull and hoping I'll get it off in one piece. I'm all ears if anyone has any suggestions for de-gluing wood. I'm thinking it might be bedded in caulking.

                  Right side stripped by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

                  Starting Stripping Inside by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr

                  Rub Strip by Carl Warmouth, on Flickr
                  Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

                  And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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                  • #39
                    That is some nice looking plywood under there.

                    Maybe he put 5200 on the back side of the rub strip before screwing it? Would you be able to tape it off?

                    Looks like you are running low on EGGS!

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                    • #40
                      I'm with FARR....you may do more damage by trying to take it off. I'd try taping it.
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                      • #41
                        The rub strips are going to have to come off one way or another. I hope that I can save them because I don't want to scarf new ones. (Although Steve Steele gave my buddy and me a great lesson in scarfing plywood). I have decided that I am going to epoxy and glass the entire outside of the hull so the transom trim, stem cap, chine caps, gunnels, and rub strips are going to have to come off for that. I did a little more poking and prying last night and I now believe that they are not glued on, but man, those silicon bronze ring nails are really good fasteners.

                        John - you busted me on the eggs. I am a prepper for the chicken apocalypse.
                        Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

                        And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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                        • #42
                          One month update:

                          So here is what a month's worth of progress looks like. Interior is out and the hull has been liberated of about 90% of its old paint. Lots of work still ahead.
                          IMG_0148 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                          IMG_0139 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                          IMG_0158 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]
                          Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

                          And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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                          • #43
                            Looking good Carl! I've been keeping up over at Wooden Boat People.

                            Have you decided on how to handle the rub strips?
                            The Drifter

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                            • #44
                              Thanks Steve.

                              You and John were right about the rub strips. They are not coming off without tearing up the whole boat. There are about 50 ring shank nails in each one and those buggers don't come out without a fight. My current thinking is that I will put a small epoxy fillet around the whole thing. Just small enough to make a smooth transition with the glass.
                              Last edited by Warmouth; 09-01-15, 12:27 AM.
                              Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

                              And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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                              • #45
                                I have been super anxious to find out what the chines look like on this boat. Nervous that there would be rot but hopeful that there wouldn't be. Everything looks good from the inside but you never know until you really get into it. But before I could find out, there was a lot of paint and screws that had to be removed - 81 screws and two layers of paint to be exact.

                                Here's what I found out...

                                Oak batten caps look pretty good so far...

                                IMG_0156 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                                IMG_0159 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                                Or maybe not. Lots of rot in the middle. Getting nervous about what is under here.

                                IMG_0160 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                                Well, this is interesting... a strip of rubber between the batten cap and the hull. I guess they didn't have 3M 5200 back then.

                                IMG_0165 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                                IMG_0164 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]

                                Looks good! Chines are rock solid with nary a sign of rot. Apparently the rubber did its job well. But it looks like a couple inches of the side has been replaced at some point. OK with me. Saves me the work. I'm guessing the bottom was probably replaced too. It looks good and solid. It's amazing to me that this wood is this solid. There was a total of 161 screws along the chine. 161 possible places for water intrusion. And it somehow stayed out. Now I just have to worry about the other side.

                                IMG_0167 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/128490941@N07/]
                                Then Peter said, "I'm going fishing." The disciples replied, we're going too, and they got in the boat..." John 21:3a

                                And now, I pray thee, take thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field and hunt me venison. Genesis 27:3

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