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  • Euro-Nymphing Materials and Supplies

    Over the past few weeks I've been trying educate myself on this Euro-Nymphing stuff. It seems everyone I speak with has a recommendation on fly line, tippet material, sighter, rod, etc. My head is spinning and I can't keep track of this stuff. So...I'll attempt to start a comprehensive thread listing materials and supplies pertaining to Euro-Nymphing.

    I plan on making this a "sticky".

    On another note....Paul Bourcq did an excellent job on his Euro-Nymphing presentation at the WNC Flyfishing Festival this weekend.

    So......help out with this please!

    Fly Lines
    - Rio comp line (000 wt taper)
    - Rio Ultimate Euro nymphing line
    - Cortland Competition Nymphing Line
    - Rio Comp(1st choice), 1 wt DT Rio (used on my 4 wt with 12# Maxima Ultra Green), 0
    - wt DT Rio (used sometimes for my 3 wt with 10# Maxima Ultra Green, this is used if I'm strictly nymphing). Thanks 2fly!

    Leader Material
    - 15# Maxima ultra green
    - Amnesia in 8# test in green and orange
    - P Line CX copolymer in 15 lb test

    Tippet Material
    - Trouthunter Flourocarbon
    - Frogs Hair Flourocarbon in 5, 6, and 7X
    -Seaguer InvizX flurocarbon tippet material: $ 20.00 for 200 YARDS at Cabelas


    Sighter Material
    - 8lb greenAmnesia Colored Mono Thanks to RScott
    - Stren Gold
    - Amnesia (Chartreuse and Orange)
    - Suffix Tangerine
    - Jan Simans bicolor sighter
    - Umpqua sighter tippet in 3x

    Rods for Euro Nymphing
    -Cortland Competition Nymph Rod ($220)
    -TFO BVK ($249)
    -Grey's Streamflex ($319 to $339)
    -Sage ESN ($695)
    -Scott A4 ($395)
    -Cabela's CZN ($199)

    Fly Tying Materials
    -Jig Hooks (http://www.bluequillangler.com/)
    -scud / egg hooks (size, brand and need a vendor?)
    -Tungsten beads (http://www.bluequillangler.com/)
    - AllenHooks
    -more tungsten beads....great deals! Thanks aknezo!
    - Tungsten beads from Riplips or Allen. Barbless Hooks from Allen, Troutlegend, or Performance Flies. Thx 2fly!


    From Chuck Morris:
    For brass beads, coneheads and hourglass eyes check:
    http://www.wholesaleflycompany.com/

    Euro-Nymphing Flies
    -need a vendor

    Miscellaneous
    - tippet rings - (size, brand and need a vendor?)

    Leader Talk
    http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/foru...eferrerid=7160
    http://www.georgia-outdoors.com/foru...eferrerid=7160

    Reference

    Performance Flies

    The Blue Quill Angler

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    Last edited by Trout8myfly; 02-28-15, 02:20 PM. Reason: Removed dead ebay links
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  • #2
    Great thread, Drifter. I too am trying to learn more about this euro nymph style. This thread will be a perfect one-stop-shop for info about it.

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    • #3
      I use Rio Ultimate Euro nymphing line, but I also have a 3wt DT Rio line that just sags a bit. If you get a DT line go lighter line 0 or 1 wt. I modify 9 ft 3x tapered leaders for euro nymphing by cutting about 24" of leader off, adding on sighter, then level tippet (6X frog hair fluorocarbon) down to the flies. I use Umpqua sighter tippet in 3x but there are many other sighter material that you could use. Stren gold, Amnesia, Suffix tangerine, Jan Simans bicolor sighter are all other options. A good online shop for Euro nymphing fly tying materials is Performance Flies. Also The Blue Quill Angler has a whole euro nymphing section that has fly lines, materials, flies, etc. They have everything you will ever need to euro nymph. Also Allen has high quality hooks that are super cheap. Really good if you need to buy a TON of hooks. Im sure others will tune in with different options so we can have a really good resource for everything Euro Nymphing.
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      • #4
        Excellent! Keep 'em coming.
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        • #5
          tippet

          Seaguer InvizX flurocarbon tippet material: $ 20.00 for 200 YARDS(I get mine from Cabelas)). Billed as 4 lb. but mics at 0.007 so more like 4X and seems a lot stonger than 4 lb.
          SpeyBro

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          • #6
            The standard 9' 3X mono leader has already been mentioned. I use Frog Hair Flourocarbon in 5, 6, and 7X. Pretty much use Amnesia in 8# test in green and orange but Umpqua makes 3X bicolor sighter that you can get as well. Fly lines: Rio Comp(1st choice), 1 wt DT Rio (used on my 4 wt with 12# Maxima Ultra Green), 0 wt DT Rio (used sometimes for my 3 wt with 10# Maxima Ultra Green, this is used if I'm strictly nymphing). Don't forget fly tying. Tungsten beads from Riplips or Allen. Barbless Hooks from Allen, Troutlegend, or Performance Flies.
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            • #7
              I spoke at length with Joe Goodspeed of Cortland yesterday at the Festival. He played a big part in the design of the new 10' 6" competition nymph rods. I was really impressed with the build quality and the fact that the rod retails for $219. He also helped design the competition nymph line (140 grain). They just released a similar version (120 grain) that has a plastic-coated braid that is super-sensitive and there is virtually no line sag through the guides. This rod is super light and should be really sensitive with the new line. Paul Bourcq used one during his Euro-nymphing seminar.

              On another note, he was very excited about the new owners of Cortland and the direction the company is headed. I relayed to him some candid thoughts such as....they need to expand their dealer base and develop a bigger web presence. Their products (and dealers) are somewhat scarce on the WWW.
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              • #8
                Steve, for long leaders I use P Line CX copolymer in 15 lb test, usually about 20' of it, 8lb Amnesia in green and red for the sighter and Rio tippet (usually 5, 6 or 7x). I've got a whole pile of the P Line and will give you a bunch next time I see you if you'd like to try it. It will go bad before I ever use all of it. I truly hate I couldn't get up there and hang with you guys this weekend. Tight lines,
                Mark
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                • #9
                  Thanks Mark....I'd like to give it a try.

                  The Big Guy is still up there if you can make it up. Of course he'll be at the poker table most of the time.
                  The Drifter

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                  • #10
                    The cheapest place I've found to get my tungsten beads from is ebay. Here are a couple of very highly rated sellers:

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tungsten-Bea...item3a87bb83fb

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-TUNGSTEN...item565eb2112f

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-TUNGSTEN...item4acc06b984
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                    • #11
                      with the european nypmhing the lines you use really comes down the style you use. The short leader (Polish, and Czech styles) styles you can use a standard fly line. The reason being you are fishing fairly heavy flies pretty much right under the rod tip. With the French and Spanish nymphing (normally termed long leader) you can use the same line. The reason being the leaders for thise are often in excess of 40ft long. (I have several that are in the neighborhood of 55ft).

                      Fro those that are looking at competition fishing a coming rule change will mean a change to those that use a long leader. The rule is a leader can be no more then 2x the length of the rod. Which with the max rod length allowed being 12ft if my memory is correct. It will mean the average comp angler is using a 20ft or shorter leader. (Most fish a 10ft rod though some do use 11ft). For that though a new product has come out in the last six months. It is a nymphing line made by Rio but is only sold by Blue Quill Anlgers. This line is different from any other line in that at the thickest it is only .025" This puts it in approximately the same diameter range as 25lb-30lb mono. Which happens to be the running material used in some long leaders. Being a comp angler I recently bought this line, and on the one occasion I used it liked it a good bit.

                      Just a warning on what to expect, it is a thin diameter nymphing line. This means it is designed for fishing up to about 35ft away using long leader techniques. So if you buy it don't expect to just throw it on a reel and start making 50+ft casts. While it can go over the 40ft, it works best at about 20ft.

                      For those that have questions feel free to shoot me a pm.


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                      • #12
                        Steve,
                        I'll make up an assortment of Allen hooks (All barbless) for you to try.
                        Wide gap dry, jig, streamer, scud, etc.
                        Chuck
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                        • #13
                          Thanks Chuck. I was hoping you would interject. Have we covered the venders that you use for hooks and beads?

                          With all the rain this past weekend....I spent some time at the tying desk. I like that tying lamp by the way I cranked out a couple=o=dozen heavily weighted Girdle Bugs....actually my version of the Hothead Marvin that is so popular on the Tuck. I have since found out I probably should have tied them on a jig hook I tried them out Friday morning when there was a break in the weather and caught fish.
                          The Drifter

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                          • #14
                            Thanks to all! I think we are about to get it covered. Are we missing anything?
                            The Drifter

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                            • #15
                              Steve,
                              Pretty much Allen for hooks. Just got almost 400 for about $17. Allen had a 50% off sale. They have these sales on a periodic basis.
                              Beads are from a variety of sources. The e-bay route sometimes is the way to go. Remember that all beads are not made the same. Some have quality control issues.
                              It seems that some tiers are having trouble with regular beads on jig hooks, and are using slotted beads. I have not encountered that problem, and use regular beads. Even craft store hollow beads work for me. I use the 60 deg. jig hooks.
                              You know me, if there is a bargain to be found, somehow I'll find it!
                              Don't know when I'll get to fish again. Doris is having her second eye surgery this Thursday AM and does she ever milk the restrictions after surgery for all that it's worth.
                              Chuck
                              Last edited by Chuck Morris; 12-09-13, 08:49 AM.
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