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Old 02-08-18, 12:07 PM   #311
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Those must of locked in earlier than '86, maybe '81 when mortgage rates hit 18%+? Making that 9.5 look good.
I remember VA money @ 14% talk about killing a market, I was holding a couple of spec houses in Enterprise Al. it was ruff .
Yep...it was a crazy time:

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Old 02-08-18, 08:11 PM   #312
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Nice graph. Makes an interesting overlay with Federal debt (in constant dollars) and Federal debt as a percentage of GDP, which doesn't included the off-book accrued liability for Medicare and Social Security. For a thrill, add-up booked and off-book debt and divide by the number of taxpayers.
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Old 02-09-18, 06:46 AM   #313
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For a thrill, add-up booked and off-book debt and divide by the number of taxpayers.
And for a real THRILL divide it by the number of actual "tax" payers, not those that file a tax return. It's roughly half of all the those that file tax returns. The number is staggering per person who pays actual federal taxes.

My experience most people don't understand the taxes that are paid. Many think just because they see a deduction in their pay stub they are paying taxes. They don't understand that's just the Social Security, Medicare tax.
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Old 02-09-18, 09:37 AM   #314
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And for a real THRILL divide it by the number of actual "tax" payers, not those that file a tax return. It's roughly half of all the those that file tax returns. The number is staggering per person who pays actual federal taxes.

My experience most people don't understand the taxes that are paid. Many think just because they see a deduction in their pay stub they are paying taxes. They don't understand that's just the Social Security, Medicare tax.
Taxation is theft.

Edit: On topic, ranging volatile markets are fun to watch when you have the luxury of being able to hold your positions.
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Taxation is theft.

Edit: On topic, ranging volatile markets are fun to watch when you have the luxury of being able to hold your positions.
...as are death and uncertainty.
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Old 02-17-18, 12:10 PM   #316
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Stocks are rebounding nicely....mine dropped initially to about 12% over the past year, now back up to 14.5%.
Is this correction over, or is there more to come? The market seems to have stabilized, and appears to be heading back up.
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Stocks are rebounding nicely....mine dropped initially to about 12% over the past year, now back up to 14.5%.
Is this correction over, or is there more to come? The market seems to have stabilized, and appears to be heading back up.
A lot of folks at work are asking me the same thing. My answer is: I don't know. No one does. One feather in our cap is the economy is strong, but predicting the future of the market is impossible.
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Old 02-17-18, 06:01 PM   #318
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Stocks are rebounding nicely....mine dropped initially to about 12% over the past year, now back up to 14.5%.
Is this correction over, or is there more to come? The market seems to have stabilized, and appears to be heading back up.
It's a little plateau with a lot of volatility at the moment. Depending on your frame of reference that could either mean a ranging market that's too unpredictable to make money or that it's a slight pull back in an upwardly trending market and a good buying opportunity.
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