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Old 07-28-14, 09:19 AM   #1
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Default better knot for droppers

I usually fish my nymph rigs with the top as a actual dropper tag, but I went back and tried the ol' drop your achor fly off the back of the first fly's hook, had several fish pop my knot of my first fly when they took my anchor, I used a improved clinch ( maybe im not doing something right ). can you guys recommend a new knot for a dropper ?

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Old 07-28-14, 09:25 AM   #2
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I do like to tie an improved clinch knot to the bend of my first fly if I'm using a dropper, but I generally use a Davey Knot to tie the dropper fly to the tippet.

Keep in mind that wetting your tippet before cinching your dropper line to the bend of the hook on your first fly is more than just a good idea. If you seat the knot without having wet it to provide at least some lubrication, you run the risk of friction heating your tippet as you tighten it down on the hook bend, as well as making micro-abrasions in the tippet that can weaken your tippet strength at the know by 50% or more.
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Old 07-28-14, 10:16 AM   #3
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I use a triple surgeons - super easy to tie and will hold on big fish and will let you change lead flies without retying everything. Slowstreamer has a good sticky on his 3-fly rig somewhere that shows the know.
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Old 07-28-14, 10:20 AM   #4
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I do like to tie an improved clinch knot to the bend of my first fly if I'm using a dropper, but I generally use a Davey Knot to tie the dropper fly to the tippet.

Keep in mind that wetting your tippet before cinching your dropper line to the bend of the hook on your first fly is more than just a good idea. If you seat the knot without having wet it to provide at least some lubrication, you run the risk of friction heating your tippet as you tighten it down on the hook bend, as well as making micro-abrasions in the tippet that can weaken your tippet strength at the know by 50% or more.
thanks for the tips, I do realize know I probally did forget to lubricate it before I sinched them all down
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Old 07-28-14, 10:23 AM   #5
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x2 on lubricating the knot. On 3 consecutive nice sized fish I lost both flies and pulled back pig tails indicating knot failure. I was tying an Orvis knot on the first fly and an improved clinch off the bend.

I went to a 10-12 twist, well lubricated improved clinch on both flies and did not break off another, but also did not hook anything epic either.

So frustrating-I was going to go back to the triple surgeons mentioned above. Not sure why I switched in the first place...just mixing it up.
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Old 08-20-14, 12:23 AM   #6
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I recently switched to a triple surgeons knot for a dry dropper rig. I use to tie off the hook shank. On the first dropper fly i use another surgeon knot and tie on to the tag end and then I use the davy knot on the point fly. Davy knot is quick and east to tie without wasting a lot of tippet. By using this setup you can change all 3 flies within a minute or two. The only problem with this setup is you are limiting yourself to a certain depth in the water column. If you want to go deeper or shallower you have to re rig the bottom two flies. Either cutting off some tippet and tying another surgeons knot or cutting and adding tippet and tying 2 more surgeon knots. There might be a better way to do it, but I will let someone else address that. Regardless try the davy knot it is a great knot and I rarely break fish off.
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Old 08-20-14, 08:04 AM   #7
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Another vote for the davy knot. It's super simple and doesn't use very much tippet material at all. I'm very much a novice and have yet to draw back a pig-tail due to knot failure.
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Old 08-20-14, 09:18 AM   #8
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Yeah, Davy here as well. It's the shizz. I still occasionally use a clinch knot when tying off the bend because it easier for me for some reason.
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Old 08-20-14, 12:07 PM   #9
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I have noticed some brands of tippet materials will not hold a cinch knot and other brands will.
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