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Old 10-19-15, 07:25 AM   #1
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Some of you have asked so I thought I'd put this here. I use this link to determine flow:

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydro...rob_type=stage

http://www.duke-energy.com/lakes/nan...w-releases.asp

This is what you'll see:



In this example..the East Fork is not releasing any water. The West Fork came on at 0600 and will run till midnite. Both releases would reach the top of the DH (Hwy 107) in about 6 or 7 hours. So in the example above....the DH will not be affected until 1200 to 1300 hours give or take. Here's something new from Duke Energy regarding water flow:

http://www.duke-energy.com/lakes/nan...w-releases.asp

Once the water begins to rise...if you feel uneasy....drive to the lower DH and get another two hours or so of low water.

Zero generation = easy wading

West Fork only = easy wading and rubber raft floating with some dragging in riffles.

East Fork only = cautious wading, rubber raft friendly, hard-bottom boats use caution.

***Please note--there is some confusion as to which flow ((East or West) is heaviest. It looks like the most recent FERC data indicates more water is released from the East Fork. Outdated fishing web pages state the opposite. Use good judgement and caution.

East and West = wading possible but hazardous if you don't know the river, raft and driftboat Heaven.



Remember that in days following heavy rains....allow for additional flow due to feeder streams between the powerhouses and the DH.

For those of you that are internet challenged....you can call Duke Energy at :

1 (800) 829-5253

...and follow the prompts.





Boat Access (ramps)

Locust Creek Access - Old Cullowhee Road just across Hwy 107 bridge (top of DH). Trailer parking, restrooms and concrete ramp.

Mud Hole Access - mud and gravel access just downstream of Hwy 107 on South River Road (limited parking, no restrooms)

Blankenship's Cabin (private) - at the confluence of the Tuck and Savannah Creek on Mockingbird Road. Look for the red cabin. Plenty of secure parking in Mr Blankenship's yard. I give him ten bucks each time I use his access. He keeps the gravel ramp in great shape.

Dillsboro Access (Harris Access) - about 300 yards above the old dam site at North River Road and Yellowbird Branch Road. Trailer parking, restrooms and concrete ramp.



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I'll add to the list as they come to me:

Lower Tuck DH
You'll be near Bryson City
Nabor's Drive-In....an old fashioned car hop burger joint on the banks of the Tuck. The attraction here...you can actually wade across the DH to grab a slaw burger and fries....use the restroom...and continue fishing.

1245 Main Street, Bryson City, NC

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restauran...a.html?m=19904


The Filling Station
In the heart of BC.....always crowded at lunch....which we in law enforcement call a "clue". I like the Cuban sammich. #1 on Tripadvisor for BC restaurants.

Nantahala DH
River's End Restaurant and Big Wesser Barbeque....River's End is a good place to grab a sandwich or burger, or pizza after a day of fishing. I've never eaten at the Barbeque joint so can't offer an opinion. They are the only game in town if you don't feel like driving ten or fifteen minutes to BC.

Upper Tuck (Dillsboro)

The Coffee Shop in Sylva for breakfast with the locals. You can buy your DVD copy of "The Last One" here....which is the award-winning documentary about infamous moonshiner, Popcorn Sutton. Top that
Cracker Barrel!

Kosta's in Dillsboro for lunch or dinner. Huge menu ...I've never had a bad meal here and have visited too many times to count.

The Haywood Smokehouse....established que joint that recently opened a restaurant in Dillsboro. I've yet to eat there but it comes highly recommended from Dino....the owner of Kostas. The parking lot is always full. Note-this is not the old Dillsboro Smokehouse although it's in the same building.

Note-Ate there tonite! Very good service and food.


Huddle House.....convenient to the river....and it's a Huddle House. What can I say? Many of the guides meet their clients here each morning.

Jack the Dipper Ice Cream Shoppe....make this your dessert stop after dinner in Sylva. Try the freshly made cinnamon waffle cone with three scoops of Cappucino Crunch ice cream.

Sazon's Mexican - Old Cullowhee Road near the WCU campus.

Cherokee area (Raven's Fork and GSMNP streams)

Eat at the Chef's Buffet in the casino at least once. Sunday afternoons feature all-you-can-eat crab legs.

Paul's Restaurant

Pancake House

Newfound Lodge Restaurant (buffet)

Granny's Buffet Restaurant....can you tell I like buffets?

And if you have the SO with you and want nice dining....Brio in the casino is good.

Not an all inclusive list...but places I frequent on a regular basis. Check the Googler to see if they are open.....some are seasonal.

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Old 10-19-15, 08:05 AM   #2
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That's a great picture of Chuck. He looks like he using the powers of the force to raise trout to the surface.

The force is strong with that one.
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That's a great picture of Chuck. He looks like he using the powers of the force to raise trout to the surface.



The force is strong with that one.

Thx Bret. This photo was taken between his morning and afternoon naps.


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Thanks Steve,



Great info. I had it backwards. I thought the East Fork put more water in than the West Fork. Good to know. Amazing how much difference in the wading based on the release combos. Have you fished the DH at BC yet? By the way, those are some big fish in the pictures



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You are correct Dan. Most recent FERC data indicates Duke Energy is releasing a heavier flow from Cedar Cliff / East Fork. Thx for catching that....Drifter

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Thanks for the great intel. Same question - have you fished the Bryson City DH yet? I can understand why you wouldn't drive down there with great fishing at your doorstep. Also, do you have a feel for how East and West Fork releases affect water levels down there? Duke Power arrival times only go as far as Whittier, which is still a ways upstream of Bryon City.
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Looked at two other websites -http://www.brookingsonline.com/river-info/,http://, boatingbeta.com/releases/tuck, and both say the East has the larger release. I'm confused. Please help.


You are correct Smokeydog.....Most recent FERC data indicates Duke Energy is releasing a heavier flow from Cedar Cliff / East Fork. Thx for catching that....Drifter

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Old 10-20-15, 11:12 AM   #9
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Looked at two other websites -http://www.brookingsonline.com/river-info/,http://, boatingbeta.com/releases/tuck, and both say the East has the larger release. I'm confused. Please help.
Keep in mind the Tuck flows in a northerly direction in its upper reaches which may be causing confusion. Glenville Dam = West Fork and Cedar Cliff Dam = East Fork

Im getting mixed messages...on which flow is the heaviest. I'm doing some research....I thought the Glenville Dam had the higher output...and this article agrees that the West Fork is bigger:

http://www.flyfishingasheville.com/a...ckasegee-river

"... Drift boats are best suited to float with both generators going or maybe even just the West Fork (big generator) but if there is no generation or the East Fork only is generating it gets pretty rough on the bottom of a boat. Small rafts, pontoons, canoes, and kayaks can float all levels of generation. "

Found this from Global Energy Observatory....according to them the West Fork has the bigger generator and typically larger flow.


East Fork of the Tuck
Cedar Cliff Hydro Power Plant NC USA is located at Jackson County, NC, USA. Location coordinates are: Latitude= 35.2821, Longitude= -83.1382. This infrastructure is of TYPE Hydro Power Plant with a design capacity of 6.4 MWe. It has 1 unit(s). The first unit was commissioned in 1952. It is operated by Duke Energy .

West Fork of the Tuck
Thorpe Hydro Power Plant NC USA is located at Jackson County, NC, USA. Location coordinates are: Latitude= 35.2821, Longitude= -83.1382. This infrastructure is of TYPE Hydro Power Plant with a design capacity of 21.6 MWe. It has 1 unit(s). The first unit was commissioned in 1941. It is operated by Duke Energy .

Now to confuse things.....here's what FERC says:

http://www.ferc.gov/whats-new/comm-meet/2011/091511/H-1.pdf

Beginning in at least 2011.....East Fork = 26.175 megawatts

West Fork = 24.6 megawatts



So if we believe the Federales.....the East Fork typically releases the most water......however they release from the smaller West Fork during DH. If anyone finds anything more definitive......please let me know.
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I have not fished the BC DH yet. One of the local guides did a float trip down there last week.....he didn't post any fish porn on his Instagram feed....which is atypical for him....and may or may not indicate fishing was slow.


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