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Old 01-12-18, 11:47 PM   #1
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So after all the fun I made...I finally splurged and got a 9ft rod for small streams. Most of the stuff I've read on here leader wise has been to either use a furled or level mono. Has anyone tried a Euro style leader? Saw a guy using one of those Appalchian leaders and it did have a "sigher" section is the reason I'm asking. Not a huge furled fan so I will be going with a Euro approach.
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Old 01-13-18, 08:21 AM   #2
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Did you actually buy a tenkara rod


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Old 01-13-18, 09:10 AM   #3
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So after all the fun I made...I finally splurged and got a 9ft rod for small streams. Most of the stuff I've read on here leader wise has been to either use a furled or level mono. Has anyone tried a Euro style leader? Saw a guy using one of those Appalchian leaders and it did have a "sigher" section is the reason I'm asking. Not a huge furled fan so I will be going with a Euro approach.


I tried some tight lining with a tenkara before I got my nymphing stick from Big T. Tie on some 20lb maxima chameleon with your preferred sighter and you値l be good to go...until you hook a bigun where you actually need the drag. 😫🤬


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I tried some tight lining with a tenkara before I got my nymphing stick from Big T. Tie on some 20lb maxima chameleon with your preferred sighter and you値l be good to go...until you hook a bigun where you actually need the drag. 😫🤬


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Good to know. I might scale down to 10# cuz I hardly ever have the 20# outta the guides on my nymphing rod. Now I just gotta read up on some chankonabe stuff.
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Old 01-13-18, 10:15 AM   #5
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Are talking about the leader or the line, there is a difference. On a Tenkara rod you have a line that is a level line or a tapered line. The tapered line can either be furled or a composite of level lines. Furled lines can be made from Uni Thread, silk or mono. With Tenkara most level lines are floro lines as they have a less than neutral density.

I prefer a furled line, and about three or four feet of leader, they seem to give me better control. Sighters are not necessary as you only have the leader or tippet in the water if you are using nymphs or soft hackles.

Some furled lines have floatant built in, I use Zen Outfitter's lines. Other furled lines such as Appalachian and others need to be dressed so they will float. I use "Otter Butter". There are others, that will work but not as well.

If you want to learn about Tenkara you should make plans to attend the Fly Fishing show and take in some of the Tenkara lectures.

As a side note I would not recommend taking a section of plastic fly line either floating or sinking as it will to heavy for the Tenkara rod.
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Old 01-13-18, 10:17 AM   #6
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I tried some tight lining with a tenkara before I got my nymphing stick from Big T. Tie on some 20lb maxima chameleon with your preferred sighter and you値l be good to go...until you hook a bigun where you actually need the drag. 😫🤬


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If you fish a Tenkara rod properly you don't have to have a drag. I have caught and landed trout over 20ins with my Tenkara on more than one occasion.
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If you fish a Tenkara rod properly you don't have to have a drag. I have caught and landed trout over 20ins with my Tenkara on more than one occasion.


I致e landed several in the 15-18 range on the tenkara with 6x tippet. And I知 sure you can land 20+ inch fish some of the time if the conditions are right. I値l just never forget hooking a 20+ slob in a deep hole on a small creek in NC and never having chance...from hook set to line snap was about 1.5 seconds when that bruiser realized it was hooked and took off like it was shot from a cannon.


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For a short and cheap rod like that, I would just stick a rod-lenth section of 15 or 20# sunset amnesia. Use a stopper knot at the fly end, and tie ~2' of tippet on above that with a simple knot like the Davy.

On a longer rod, the line matters a lot more, since there's more of it, and the rod has more flex to work the line properly.

As narco said, when fishing tenkara rod with proper technique, the rod is the drag. Most of them are not designed for big fish or strong current though.

I've actually landed some of my biggest fish on a really soft, but really long (4.5m, ~14.5') rod. The length acts as a lever, and gives it more capability to flex and play the fish. It's a LOT harder to design a short (like your 270) rod with nice flex that won't snap on a decent fish.
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I致e landed several in the 15-18 range on the tenkara with 6x tippet. And I知 sure you can land 20+ inch fish some of the time if the conditions are right. I値l just never forget hooking a 20+ slob in a deep hole on a small creek in NC and never having chance...from hook set to line snap was about 1.5 seconds when that bruiser realized it was hooked and took off like it was shot from a cannon.


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And your point is? We all have lost fish of any size on a western rod just as quickly.
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Old 01-13-18, 10:54 AM   #10
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What sorts small streams you thinking... Because in my opinion tenkara won't be useful past the hike in on small bush whacking streams unless you use about 2-4 feet of line, level fluro,including tippet, basically just tippet. Setting the hook playing the fish requires height, and /or creativity.
Now if you're gsmnp-ing it, that's a great stick for those streams (Saying that having never fished a darn one)

Again just my opinion.
I really like my cheap tenkara stick, playing small bass, bream, and even hoochie browns and bows has been a blast, but I couldn't even imagine using that thing on a stream covered in rhodo, or chasing specks in most of the streams where I chase wilds and natives.

I'm a huge eagle claw 6'6" featherweight fan for that.
Adds line control, you could cast if that happens to be necessary. I run a modified dry drop euro rig (with) sighter off that and can cast 30-40 feet out the guides when necessary to approach those pesky wild browns. I've also locked in the reel drag and fished it like a stick. And, my seven year old Spencer found a dried piece of bamboo, we tied a four foot section of mono, one foot section of fluro to the end of that and a bright yellow dry fly and he caught a 10" wild bow on a great little stream hiding in plain sight.




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