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Old 01-24-18, 06:50 AM   #41
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The biggest variable impacting angling mortality is water temperature. At 58*, you can punt a trout to the next drainage and it will be fine. At 68*, it will die from an angry look.
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Old 01-24-18, 12:32 PM   #42
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Is there a reason Dukes Creek is catch and release?

If people are regularly violating the special regs doesn't it defeat the purpose of them?
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Old 01-24-18, 01:59 PM   #43
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Lots of people ignore the rules at Dukes. I caught about an 18-19" rainbow in section 1 several years back that had a snelled, barbed baitholder hook stuck in its throat with about 6" of line hanging from its mouth. I have found worm boxes and corn cans along most sections of Dukes. I haven't fished it in about 5 years but it sounds like nothing has changed.
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Old 01-24-18, 02:17 PM   #44
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Lots of people ignore the rules at Dukes. I caught about an 18-19" rainbow in section 1 several years back that had a snelled, barbed baitholder hook stuck in its throat with about 6" of line hanging from its mouth. I have found worm boxes and corn cans along most sections of Dukes. I haven't fished it in about 5 years but it sounds like nothing has changed.
I must have dropped my can of corn after eating my cheese and corn sandwich which I take to all the streams that are artificial only.
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Old 01-24-18, 03:01 PM   #46
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Old 01-25-18, 09:25 AM   #47
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There are those people who a complete disregard for rules, laws, ethics and regulations. They seem to believe those regulations are made for others, not them, as they always have some special circumstance making it acceptable for them to ignore regulations put in place to create unique recreational opportunities like Dukes Creek. What is truly frustrating is that when someone violates the rules and gets caught, the judge gives them a little slap on the wrist and sends them home.

I suspect these pond scum have always been with us and probably will continue to be with us. Consider the angler who takes their child with them to break rules and regulations. What does that instill in that young angler?

For most of us, we do respect the rules and regulations because we know they are for the common good and the good of the sport we love. Do what you can, report all instances of misbehavior like worm cartons on Dukes Creek to local authorities. If enough people complain some action may be taken to improve enforcement. And when you can, take a young angler fishing and have the conservation discussion with them. Not a sermon, but if you see that worm carton on Dukes, explain the implications and how that rule breaker may have ruined your fishing day.
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There are those people who a complete disregard for rules, laws, ethics and regulations. They seem to believe those regulations are made for others, not them, as they always have some special circumstance making it acceptable for them to ignore regulations put in place to create unique recreational opportunities like Dukes Creek. What is truly frustrating is that when someone violates the rules and gets caught, the judge gives them a little slap on the wrist and sends them home.

I suspect these pond scum have always been with us and probably will continue to be with us. Consider the angler who takes their child with them to break rules and regulations. What does that instill in that young angler?

For most of us, we do respect the rules and regulations because we know they are for the common good and the good of the sport we love. Do what you can, report all instances of misbehavior like worm cartons on Dukes Creek to local authorities. If enough people complain some action may be taken to improve enforcement. And when you can, take a young angler fishing and have the conservation discussion with them. Not a sermon, but if you see that worm carton on Dukes, explain the implications and how that rule breaker may have ruined your fishing day.
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Old 01-26-18, 09:21 AM   #49
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There are those people who a complete disregard for rules, laws, ethics and regulations. They seem to believe those regulations are made for others, not them, as they always have some special circumstance making it acceptable for them to ignore regulations put in place to create unique recreational opportunities like Dukes Creek. What is truly frustrating is that when someone violates the rules and gets caught, the judge gives them a little slap on the wrist and sends them home.

I suspect these pond scum have always been with us and probably will continue to be with us. Consider the angler who takes their child with them to break rules and regulations. What does that instill in that young angler?

For most of us, we do respect the rules and regulations because we know they are for the common good and the good of the sport we love. Do what you can, report all instances of misbehavior like worm cartons on Dukes Creek to local authorities. If enough people complain some action may be taken to improve enforcement. And when you can, take a young angler fishing and have the conservation discussion with them. Not a sermon, but if you see that worm carton on Dukes, explain the implications and how that rule breaker may have ruined your fishing day.
Got get em, John! You may not live in Georgia these days but we still appreciate your love for the resources. What's even more disgusting to me is that there are some local "guides" who have made a game of slipping in to Dukes Creek at night and poaching big browns. It infuriates me! Too much testosterone.
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Old 01-26-18, 09:30 AM   #50
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Consider the angler who takes their child with them to break rules and regulations. What does that instill in that young angler?
Your whole post is perfect, IMHO. And I am one of the opposite fellas; I take little Spencer with me and I adamantly teach him to follow the rules on the streams so that he can fish for a long long time and enjoy with me for hopefully a long long time.

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Got get em, John! You may not live in Georgia these days but we still appreciate your love for the resources. What's even more disgusting to me is that there are some local "guides" who have made a game of slipping in to Dukes Creek at night and poaching big browns. It infuriates me! Too much testosterone.
So, this really does happen!? I've heard rumors, but always chalked it up to rumors predicated upon the skunk on the stream... that sucks!
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