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Old 02-15-18, 02:09 PM   #1
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Default Lake Lanier Full Pool Proposal

There is an interesting story over on the Lake Lanier Association facebook page concerning a proposal to raise Lanier's full summer pool elevation from 1071 to 1073. If adopted, which is very unlikely, there maybe some downstream consequences. In my conversations with them it seems to be just at the idea stage and mainly benefits the lakeside homeowners and recreation businesses.
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Old 02-15-18, 04:00 PM   #2
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Default Lake Lanier Master Plan project update

Natureman you made an excellent post on their FB page.

If anyone attends the COE open house on The Lake Lanier Master Plan project update please post an update if possible.

The dates and locations are listed
https://www.facebook.com/lakelaniera...type=3&theater

https://lakelanier.com/2018/01/lake-...r-plan-update/
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Old 02-15-18, 05:45 PM   #3
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Thanks, although I didn't condemn the idea, I don't think folks over there liked what I had to say. I guess some think you can raise the lake 2 feet over full and there are no consequences. They definitely haven't thought things thru and IMO should spend some of their own money to do some preliminary research including downstream user impacts.
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In my conversations with them it seems to be just at the idea stage and mainly benefits the lakeside homeowners and recreation businesses.
From what I have seen throughout the years going back to the Gwinnett County Water Works project on Lake Lanier, the Lake Lanier Association comes across as being only concerned with lakeside homeowners and recreation businesses on Lake Lanier. But then again, that's who they represent.
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My first thoughts when I saw “1073” was “what’s so special about that number? And would it make any difference in drier years?”

My next thought was “and what’s the impact to the shoreline, dam, and structure?”


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Old 02-16-18, 09:38 AM   #6
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" .... From what I have seen throughout the years going back to the Gwinnett County Water Works project on Lake Lanier, the Lake Lanier Association comes across as being only concerned with lakeside homeowners and recreation businesses on Lake Lanier. ...

Amen, Brother. I was deeply involved with this issue via the old Chattahoochee Chapter TU. The Lanier Association was the group holding the view that the best place for the Gwinnett plant output was below the dam as rivers are 'self-cleaning'. It appears they still don't fully grasp the idea that the public owns Lanier, not the homeowners.
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For those that are interested, The Corps is holding public meetings this month concerning Lake Lanier.

https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/new...k-gainesville/
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" .... From what I have seen throughout the years going back to the Gwinnett County Water Works project on Lake Lanier, the Lake Lanier Association comes across as being only concerned with lakeside homeowners and recreation businesses on Lake Lanier. ...

Amen, Brother. I was deeply involved with this issue via the old Chattahoochee Chapter TU. The Lanier Association was the group holding the view that the best place for the Gwinnett plant output was below the dam as rivers are 'self-cleaning'. It appears they still don't fully grasp the idea that the public owns Lanier, not the homeowners.
Yes, and on top of that they do not actually own the property if recollection serves correctly. Isn't it a long term lease with the COE?
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Yes, and on top of that they do not actually own the property if recollection serves correctly. Isn't it a long term lease with the COE?

No, it is not a lease for the public property behind private homes down to the lake. It is a 5 year license permit to have facilities such a a dock, walkway, electric service etc. on public property. If the person doesn't pay the license fee or it is revoked for some reason then the facilities must be removed. The permit does not grant any exclusive use of the property. You would be surprised how many million dollar home owners around Lanier whine about paying the paltry amount for the permit.
The COE issues leases to marinas, quasi public clubs, county city parks and Lake Lanier Islands where long term agreements are warranted.

http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/Portal.../Exhibit09.pdf

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