B*** Bugs

jeffg · 03-25-99, 02:54 PM

I am really getting into tying deer hair bugs. In fact it is rather fun what you can create.

I have noticed on commercially purchase bugs that they will have a solid white underbelly while the top is striped with multiple colors.

My question is how the heck do they get that solid white underbelly ??> I cannot duplicate it as much as I have been trying too, i am getting slightly frustrated. So can anyone help me out on this one>?

WDN FLY · 03-25-99, 04:42 PM

THE TRICK IS TO NOT SPIN THE DEER HAIR. LOCK IN IN PLACE AND LET IT FLAIR BUT DON'T LET IT SPIN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROTARY VICE TAKE THE HOOK OUT OF YOUR VICE AND PUT IT IN UPSIDE DOWN WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE BELLY OF THAT SECTION. HAVE FUN !

Kent · 03-25-99, 05:20 PM

Jeff -
Key is, as Wdnfly said, to lock it. Normally you make a couple of loose turns round the hair bundle and tighten thread & continue wrapping as you release grip on hair. To lock hair, retain tight grip on tips as you tighten thread & continue wraps - it will flair, but not spin round hook. You may have to adjust a bit with finger-tips.

jeffg · 03-25-99, 05:38 PM

I am trying to picture it. But I still dont understand how the bottom remains white while the rest is striped. How do you get the multi colors then on the top>

I understand the locking it down to flair up
AHHHHHH,. correct me if I am wrong.
You tie blue on top by locking it down. Rotate the vice then tie/the white, rotate vice lock blue, rotate tie white etc and so forth?>
Am I any where near what you mean?

Kent · 03-25-99, 06:39 PM

Jeff -
Now you're getting it. Of course, size of hair bunch varies. And in fact you can use a very small bunches to tie in spots (maybe yellow on green body for frog). Again, these may require manual adjustments. Just remember that hair bunch need not always be big enough to spin around and cover entire hook - on occasions when you find hair not dense enough in a spot you can add small bunch in that spot only (with locking technique) to fill out the fly.

Nobody (that I know) said it was easy, tho' it can be fun. And deer-hair poppers (and sliders) are very effective. Even the ugly ones work so don't trash em if they don't turn out the way you planned - the fish probably won't care.

edwin · 03-31-99, 12:21 AM

I'll have to second kent's motion on not throwing away ugly deer hair bugs. Several of the first ones I tied looked terrible, but I never threw them away (call me sentimental). One day when I was out fishing for panfish on a spring-fed pond, I decided to try one of the ugly suckers. It worked!! Last, if you need help on the tying, there are several books for sale, one by Skip Morris that I think is good and another by Dave Whitlock. However, due to the above-given excellent advice, it sounds like you're on your way!! If you ever want to try some of those warmwater bugs out on the Flint, or over here in Alabama, drop me a line.

NightOwl · 03-31-99, 11:20 AM

make sure to write in block letters thogh.
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Sorry , Edwin ! Just kidding...couldn't resist!

Owl
" Deleveriance was filmed in GEORGIA, ya know !"

jeffg · 03-31-99, 04:06 PM

Edwin,
Would like too. I havent fished for b****since I moved here 3 yrs ago. In MD it was mostly smallmouths (talk about a blast@!)
But my fishin buddy and I have been talking, and talking about the Flint, but havent made it there yet. In fact, other than what I have heard on this board, I dont know jack about it.
SO would be interested. Once the weather gets warm and stays warm, i prefer wading in shorts and boots....

edwin · 03-31-99, 10:15 PM

jeffg,
just let me know if you ever want to go. We're planning on canoeing the Flint one weekend in June. As for the smallmouth fishing, I love it, but I haven't done much, being a barseackwards AL redneck and all (that's for you, owl, he, he). That being said, I know a couple of great smallmouth areas within just a few hours of Hotlanta, and am always up for a trip. Sometimes, I think that the little smallmouth fishing I have done is more enjoyable than catching trout because the smallmouth fight so hard.

jeffg · 04-01-99, 11:27 AM

Edwin,'
Size for size, a smallie will outfight a trout. Unless it is a wild brown(personal bias there.) But the smallmouth just hit like a ton of bricks, jump run, and just generally get po'd that you caught them (like a brown.he he)

On the Flint is there anyplace to wade?"? Can you take a flatbottom boat down it without being wiped out>>

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03-25-99, 02:54 PM	#1
jeffg Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LRD Posts: 2,290	I am really getting into tying deer hair bugs. In fact it is rather fun what you can create. I have noticed on commercially purchase bugs that they will have a solid white underbelly while the top is striped with multiple colors. My question is how the heck do they get that solid white underbelly ??> I cannot duplicate it as much as I have been trying too, i am getting slightly frustrated. So can anyone help me out on this one>?

03-25-99, 04:42 PM	#2
WDN FLY Native Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 308	THE TRICK IS TO NOT SPIN THE DEER HAIR. LOCK IN IN PLACE AND LET IT FLAIR BUT DON'T LET IT SPIN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROTARY VICE TAKE THE HOOK OUT OF YOUR VICE AND PUT IT IN UPSIDE DOWN WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE BELLY OF THAT SECTION. HAVE FUN !

03-25-99, 05:20 PM	#3
Kent Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LaGrange, GA Posts: 1,497	Jeff - Key is, as Wdnfly said, to lock it. Normally you make a couple of loose turns round the hair bundle and tighten thread & continue wrapping as you release grip on hair. To lock hair, retain tight grip on tips as you tighten thread & continue wraps - it will flair, but not spin round hook. You may have to adjust a bit with finger-tips.

03-25-99, 05:38 PM	#4
jeffg Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LRD Posts: 2,290	I am trying to picture it. But I still dont understand how the bottom remains white while the rest is striped. How do you get the multi colors then on the top> I understand the locking it down to flair up AHHHHHH,. correct me if I am wrong. You tie blue on top by locking it down. Rotate the vice then tie/the white, rotate vice lock blue, rotate tie white etc and so forth?> Am I any where near what you mean?

03-25-99, 06:39 PM	#5
Kent Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LaGrange, GA Posts: 1,497	Jeff - Now you're getting it. Of course, size of hair bunch varies. And in fact you can use a very small bunches to tie in spots (maybe yellow on green body for frog). Again, these may require manual adjustments. Just remember that hair bunch need not always be big enough to spin around and cover entire hook - on occasions when you find hair not dense enough in a spot you can add small bunch in that spot only (with locking technique) to fill out the fly. Nobody (that I know) said it was easy, tho' it can be fun. And deer-hair poppers (and sliders) are very effective. Even the ugly ones work so don't trash em if they don't turn out the way you planned - the fish probably won't care.

03-31-99, 12:21 AM	#6
edwin Past Director, Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 948	I'll have to second kent's motion on not throwing away ugly deer hair bugs. Several of the first ones I tied looked terrible, but I never threw them away (call me sentimental). One day when I was out fishing for panfish on a spring-fed pond, I decided to try one of the ugly suckers. It worked!! Last, if you need help on the tying, there are several books for sale, one by Skip Morris that I think is good and another by Dave Whitlock. However, due to the above-given excellent advice, it sounds like you're on your way!! If you ever want to try some of those warmwater bugs out on the Flint, or over here in Alabama, drop me a line.

03-31-99, 11:20 AM	#7
NightOwl Ex Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Temple, Ga, USA Posts: 469	make sure to write in block letters thogh. . . Sorry , Edwin ! Just kidding...couldn't resist! Owl " Deleveriance was filmed in GEORGIA, ya know !"

03-31-99, 04:06 PM	#8
jeffg Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LRD Posts: 2,290	Edwin, Would like too. I havent fished for b****since I moved here 3 yrs ago. In MD it was mostly smallmouths (talk about a blast@!) But my fishin buddy and I have been talking, and talking about the Flint, but havent made it there yet. In fact, other than what I have heard on this board, I dont know jack about it. SO would be interested. Once the weather gets warm and stays warm, i prefer wading in shorts and boots....

03-31-99, 10:15 PM	#9
edwin Past Director, Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 948	jeffg, just let me know if you ever want to go. We're planning on canoeing the Flint one weekend in June. As for the smallmouth fishing, I love it, but I haven't done much, being a barseackwards AL redneck and all (that's for you, owl, he, he). That being said, I know a couple of great smallmouth areas within just a few hours of Hotlanta, and am always up for a trip. Sometimes, I think that the little smallmouth fishing I have done is more enjoyable than catching trout because the smallmouth fight so hard.

04-01-99, 11:27 AM	#10
jeffg Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: LRD Posts: 2,290	Edwin,' Size for size, a smallie will outfight a trout. Unless it is a wild brown(personal bias there.) But the smallmouth just hit like a ton of bricks, jump run, and just generally get po'd that you caught them (like a brown.he he) On the Flint is there anyplace to wade?"? Can you take a flatbottom boat down it without being wiped out>>