Different Ways to Cast

fishnpreacher · 08-16-01, 01:47 PM

OK guys (and gals too) I'm working on a sermon and need some pointers on different types of casts. I'm aware of the regular cast, roll cast, and curve cast. If you know of others, let me know with a short description. You know, how to, when to, that sort of stuff. You folks are the greatest!!!TIA

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flycast · 08-16-01, 02:17 PM

How about my favorite. The Belgium Cast. This cast is used primarily for chucking nymphs or big flies because there is no stopping the rod on the backcast and also used for changing the direction of a cast. Rather, it's a swing than a stop. great cast to avoid hitting your rod tip with a fly on the backcast. Start your backcast as a side arm, instead of stopping the rod on the backcast swing the rod tip around and make a regular overhead forward cast. I probably use this cast 90% of the time when fishing.

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fishindoc · 08-16-01, 02:18 PM

fishnpreacher
There are at least a dozen or more additional casts that are fairly common. Really more info than I have time to try to type now. Sence this is for a sermon you'r working on, how about the change of direction cast? There is an aerial change of direction (simply false casting while turning toward a new direction)and an on the water change of direction. To perform the on the water change of direction, sweep your rod tip low toward the new direction you want to cast to, dragging your fly line on the water. Make a back cast 180 degrees away from the target and your forward cast is already lined up to the new direction. This is a really quick way to fire a cast off in a new direction.
scott@atlantaflyfishingschool.com

J Byrd · 08-16-01, 03:44 PM

How about the "steeple" cast. Used when there is not much room for a back cast. In stead of making a normal back cast you bring the rod straight up shooting line above you and then shoot line forward like a normal cast.

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It was written: We are born to die. Let us cover a lot of water in that time.

Chris England · 08-16-01, 05:01 PM

Chuck'n Duck: Can be generally described as a cast where the weight of the fly is generally greater than the fly line's operating tolerances.

I've been known to use it on occasion

-- tight lines

Flashback · 08-16-01, 08:09 PM

Preacher,

How about these?

1) The Tuck Cast

It's used to drop a nymph solidly into the water with a bit of slack. Cast a little harder than normal for the distance and stop the forward cast abruptly causing the fly to tuck under the leader, it's a version of the curve cast on the vertical plane.

2) The Reach Cast

Also know as the reach mend cast. As you finish a standard overhead cast tilt the rod either up or down stream before the fly line hits the water. This cast creates an aerial mend in the line that eliminates the need for an on the water mend.

3) The Spey Cast

Normally, the Spey cast is executed using a specialized, double handed 11 to 16 ft. flyrod. However, it can be done with a standard 8-9 ft. rod once you get the basics down. The Spey cast is an aerialized roll cast that utilizes water tension on the flyline to load the rod. I don't think I can really describe it here, but here goes. Let a good fifty feet of fly line out downstream, feel the water tension load the rod then slowly and continously pull and raise the rod tip over your upstream shoulder. Once the fly is just upstream flick the line back over your upstream shoulder, pause then drive the rod tip up and out across the stream at a 45 degree angle. If all goes well, the cast will fly out in a slow motion loop that will amaze you.

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"I have laid aside business, and gone
a-fishing."

Izaak Walton

Windknot · 08-17-01, 08:59 AM

Rev. Bill, You can see many/some of these demo'ed on VFS at: http://www.flyshop.com/skills/
Then click on "Casting".
Don

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NGTO · 08-17-01, 09:25 AM

This sounds like it is going to be a good sermon, email me and let me know where I can come to hear it.

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fishnpreacher · 08-17-01, 01:13 PM

Thanks for all your help guys. I really like some of your favorites, especially CE, chuck & duck, you gotta love it. Change of direction, steeples, all will fit in with what I preach. Most of all is the backcast--in Psalms it says that God takes our sins and "casts them behind our backs". Our forward casting is useless unless you have a good back cast. And where I come from, "that'll preach"

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dredger · 08-17-01, 06:25 PM

Don't forget the curve cast. It's useful for getting to fish holding on the upstream side of rocks.

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08-16-01, 01:47 PM	#1
fishnpreacher Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Just this side of Heaven Posts: 4,652	OK guys (and gals too) I'm working on a sermon and need some pointers on different types of casts. I'm aware of the regular cast, roll cast, and curve cast. If you know of others, let me know with a short description. You know, how to, when to, that sort of stuff. You folks are the greatest!!!TIA ------------------ I can do all things through Christ <bill><

08-16-01, 02:17 PM	#2
flycast Native Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 94	How about my favorite. The Belgium Cast. This cast is used primarily for chucking nymphs or big flies because there is no stopping the rod on the backcast and also used for changing the direction of a cast. Rather, it's a swing than a stop. great cast to avoid hitting your rod tip with a fly on the backcast. Start your backcast as a side arm, instead of stopping the rod on the backcast swing the rod tip around and make a regular overhead forward cast. I probably use this cast 90% of the time when fishing. [This message has been edited by flycast (edited 08-16-2001).]

08-16-01, 02:18 PM	#3
fishindoc Native Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 39	fishnpreacher There are at least a dozen or more additional casts that are fairly common. Really more info than I have time to try to type now. Sence this is for a sermon you'r working on, how about the change of direction cast? There is an aerial change of direction (simply false casting while turning toward a new direction)and an on the water change of direction. To perform the on the water change of direction, sweep your rod tip low toward the new direction you want to cast to, dragging your fly line on the water. Make a back cast 180 degrees away from the target and your forward cast is already lined up to the new direction. This is a really quick way to fire a cast off in a new direction. scott@atlantaflyfishingschool.com

08-16-01, 03:44 PM	#4
J Byrd Native Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 507	How about the "steeple" cast. Used when there is not much room for a back cast. In stead of making a normal back cast you bring the rod straight up shooting line above you and then shoot line forward like a normal cast. ------------------ J. Byrd Kid tested, mother approved! It was written: We are born to die. Let us cover a lot of water in that time.

08-16-01, 05:01 PM	#5
Chris England Native Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 922	Chuck'n Duck: Can be generally described as a cast where the weight of the fly is generally greater than the fly line's operating tolerances. I've been known to use it on occasion -- tight lines

08-16-01, 08:09 PM	#6
Flashback Native Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 249	Preacher, How about these? 1) The Tuck Cast It's used to drop a nymph solidly into the water with a bit of slack. Cast a little harder than normal for the distance and stop the forward cast abruptly causing the fly to tuck under the leader, it's a version of the curve cast on the vertical plane. 2) The Reach Cast Also know as the reach mend cast. As you finish a standard overhead cast tilt the rod either up or down stream before the fly line hits the water. This cast creates an aerial mend in the line that eliminates the need for an on the water mend. 3) The Spey Cast Normally, the Spey cast is executed using a specialized, double handed 11 to 16 ft. flyrod. However, it can be done with a standard 8-9 ft. rod once you get the basics down. The Spey cast is an aerialized roll cast that utilizes water tension on the flyline to load the rod. I don't think I can really describe it here, but here goes. Let a good fifty feet of fly line out downstream, feel the water tension load the rod then slowly and continously pull and raise the rod tip over your upstream shoulder. Once the fly is just upstream flick the line back over your upstream shoulder, pause then drive the rod tip up and out across the stream at a 45 degree angle. If all goes well, the cast will fly out in a slow motion loop that will amaze you. ------------------ "I have laid aside business, and gone a-fishing." Izaak Walton

08-17-01, 08:59 AM	#7
Windknot Director, Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 12,598	Rev. Bill, You can see many/some of these demo'ed on VFS at: http://www.flyshop.com/skills/ Then click on "Casting". Don [This message has been edited by Windknot (edited 08-17-2001).]

08-17-01, 09:25 AM	#8
NGTO Administrator Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 770	This sounds like it is going to be a good sermon, email me and let me know where I can come to hear it. ------------------ Trout Now!

08-17-01, 01:13 PM	#9
fishnpreacher Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Just this side of Heaven Posts: 4,652	Thanks for all your help guys. I really like some of your favorites, especially CE, chuck & duck, you gotta love it. Change of direction, steeples, all will fit in with what I preach. Most of all is the backcast--in Psalms it says that God takes our sins and "casts them behind our backs". Our forward casting is useless unless you have a good back cast. And where I come from, "that'll preach" ------------------ I can do all things through Christ <bill><

08-17-01, 06:25 PM	#10
dredger Native Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Lula, GA, USA Posts: 209	Don't forget the curve cast. It's useful for getting to fish holding on the upstream side of rocks.