Being Commander In Cheif does not qualify you to be Commander In Cheif...

bpal · 08-10-04, 06:33 PM

OK Right Wingers, your turn.
Questioning authority, and asking whats right and wrong is what makes this question great. Blindly following is a bad mistake any time.

KB in another thread asked Lefties what JFK did to warrant leading the country.

Now I ask you this. What has president Bush done to stay there?

Part two of the question: Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"?

.....ding...

rickster · 08-10-04, 08:24 PM

I just like him!

Bold, I know. But isn't that what it all comes down to. If you agree with their ideals, core values and such, you probably like them. That transfers to trust. Hence a vote.

I think the anti Bush movement is driven by some of the same raw emotions that had so many hating Clinton, just a different crowd. His ideals and core values were 180 degrees from mine. Call me a prude, but they were.

This probably won't make a lot of friends, but I think Bush draws a lot of the anger from his bold up front position on Christ!

Somehow, in our society it become improper for a man to be driven by, and speak of, a deep conviction and belief in Christ. I know everyone doesn't hate him for it, heck some probably hate him cause he's a man, some cause he's a Texan, some cause he was born rich.....some cause in their heart they believe he's wrong.

Anyway just my .02 worth.

In his grip,
rickster

GUTHOOKED · 08-11-04, 12:35 AM

Not much, IMO. The tax cuts were a step in the right direction, but fall far short of sufficient. Signing the Campaign Finance Reform bill (AKA Incumbent Protection Act) showed a total disregard for the constitution, IMO. His prescription drug plan was nothing more than an attempt at beating dems at their own game (vote buying). His environmental policy leaves a bit to be desired, to say the least. However, all of these issues mean absolutely nothing if we lose the war on terror. I feel like Bush has acted boldly and decisively, although not recklessly, in the pursuit of terrorists, and this policy needs to continue until there is no longer anywhere for these people to hide. IMO, Bush is the best man to continue this war. All the other stuff can be fixed later.

On second thought, I may just vote none of the above.

mmarkey · 08-11-04, 08:13 AM

I totally agree with Rickster. Plus I believe what the guy is telling me. In other words if he says he is going to do something he does it. He doesn't lie intentionally to decieve. He has a strong moral character and personal direction. I don't want to ever see a president that is a flounder and flip flops or one that lies at you while biting his lip and smiling. that just gets under my skin.

Most of the major decisions that a president makes are made in conjuncton with a cadre of very smart individualls in their respective fields. That is where the strength of the presidency is. The man himself is entrusted with making the final decision but it must be able to make a DECISION and not committee rule. I think Bush has it in that respect. Just as Ronald Regan had it the same way.

My 2¢

------------------
Mike Markey

Windknot · 08-11-04, 10:01 AM

Ok, I’ll play along.

What has President Bush done to stay there?
1. Recognized that there are evil, implacable people in the world who wish us ill.
2. Recognized that the UN is a failed experiment offering very little to the world but enrichment of its minions.
3. Destroyed the fundamentalist rulers of Afghanistan.
4. Taken the fight to Islamic terrorists around the world.
5. Removed the Iraqi dictator and dismantled his political apparatus.
6. Embarked upon a premise of installing personal freedom and some version of democracy in newly-freed Iraq.
7. Cut my taxes.
8. Teased us about major income tax revision.

Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"?
1. Genuine differences of opinion on policies.
2. Misguided idealism.
3. Watching/listening to broadcast “news” exclusively.
4. Emulating their hero’s’ opinions.

Don

rickster · 08-11-04, 10:06 AM

Good job Windknot!

r

KB · 08-11-04, 10:10 AM

Well, I was gonna answer the question but Windknot hit the nail on the head.

There is really nothing else to say.

Grady · 08-11-04, 10:23 AM

Does Bush really do what he says?
Don't think so. This is probably the biggest say one thing, do another administration in modern times.

http://www.americanprogressaction.or...JcP7H&b=137673

finless brown · 08-11-04, 10:23 AM

"Part two of the question: Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"?"

IMHO they were mostly anti-Bush to begin with.

Ole W is most likely a better fisherman than Kerry

, but I'm voting for him because he is a man of principle, where it seems his opponent will say anything and everything to get votes, regardless of the evidence of his record or the true wishes of his constituancy. Basically to me he seems to be full of ####. Would that be FOS in web speak?

finless brown · 08-11-04, 10:24 AM

"OK Right Wingers, your turn."

Grady, since when did you become a right winger?

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08-10-04, 06:33 PM	#1
bpal Native Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 683	OK Right Wingers, your turn. Questioning authority, and asking whats right and wrong is what makes this question great. Blindly following is a bad mistake any time. KB in another thread asked Lefties what JFK did to warrant leading the country. Now I ask you this. What has president Bush done to stay there? Part two of the question: Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"? .....ding...

08-10-04, 08:24 PM	#2
rickster Native Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Blue Ridge Area Posts: 652	I just like him! Bold, I know. But isn't that what it all comes down to. If you agree with their ideals, core values and such, you probably like them. That transfers to trust. Hence a vote. I think the anti Bush movement is driven by some of the same raw emotions that had so many hating Clinton, just a different crowd. His ideals and core values were 180 degrees from mine. Call me a prude, but they were. This probably won't make a lot of friends, but I think Bush draws a lot of the anger from his bold up front position on Christ! Somehow, in our society it become improper for a man to be driven by, and speak of, a deep conviction and belief in Christ. I know everyone doesn't hate him for it, heck some probably hate him cause he's a man, some cause he's a Texan, some cause he was born rich.....some cause in their heart they believe he's wrong. Anyway just my .02 worth. In his grip, rickster

08-11-04, 12:35 AM	#3
GUTHOOKED Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Shady Dale, GA Posts: 1,462	Not much, IMO. The tax cuts were a step in the right direction, but fall far short of sufficient. Signing the Campaign Finance Reform bill (AKA Incumbent Protection Act) showed a total disregard for the constitution, IMO. His prescription drug plan was nothing more than an attempt at beating dems at their own game (vote buying). His environmental policy leaves a bit to be desired, to say the least. However, all of these issues mean absolutely nothing if we lose the war on terror. I feel like Bush has acted boldly and decisively, although not recklessly, in the pursuit of terrorists, and this policy needs to continue until there is no longer anywhere for these people to hide. IMO, Bush is the best man to continue this war. All the other stuff can be fixed later. On second thought, I may just vote none of the above.

08-11-04, 08:13 AM	#4
mmarkey Native Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Woodstock, GA, USA Posts: 917	I totally agree with Rickster. Plus I believe what the guy is telling me. In other words if he says he is going to do something he does it. He doesn't lie intentionally to decieve. He has a strong moral character and personal direction. I don't want to ever see a president that is a flounder and flip flops or one that lies at you while biting his lip and smiling. that just gets under my skin. Most of the major decisions that a president makes are made in conjuncton with a cadre of very smart individualls in their respective fields. That is where the strength of the presidency is. The man himself is entrusted with making the final decision but it must be able to make a DECISION and not committee rule. I think Bush has it in that respect. Just as Ronald Regan had it the same way. My 2¢ ------------------ Mike Markey

08-11-04, 10:01 AM	#5
Windknot Director, Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 12,585	Ok, I’ll play along. What has President Bush done to stay there? 1. Recognized that there are evil, implacable people in the world who wish us ill. 2. Recognized that the UN is a failed experiment offering very little to the world but enrichment of its minions. 3. Destroyed the fundamentalist rulers of Afghanistan. 4. Taken the fight to Islamic terrorists around the world. 5. Removed the Iraqi dictator and dismantled his political apparatus. 6. Embarked upon a premise of installing personal freedom and some version of democracy in newly-freed Iraq. 7. Cut my taxes. 8. Teased us about major income tax revision. Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"? 1. Genuine differences of opinion on policies. 2. Misguided idealism. 3. Watching/listening to broadcast “news” exclusively. 4. Emulating their hero’s’ opinions. Don

08-11-04, 10:06 AM	#6
rickster Native Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Blue Ridge Area Posts: 652	Good job Windknot! r

08-11-04, 10:10 AM	#7
KB Past Director, Hall of Fame Member, Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga Posts: 806	Well, I was gonna answer the question but Windknot hit the nail on the head. There is really nothing else to say.

08-11-04, 10:23 AM	#8
Grady Native Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Franklin, NC, USA Posts: 784	Does Bush really do what he says? Don't think so. This is probably the biggest say one thing, do another administration in modern times. http://www.americanprogressaction.or...JcP7H&b=137673

08-11-04, 10:23 AM	#9
finless brown Native Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,704	"Part two of the question: Why have so many people turned "anti Bush"?" IMHO they were mostly anti-Bush to begin with. Ole W is most likely a better fisherman than Kerry , but I'm voting for him because he is a man of principle, where it seems his opponent will say anything and everything to get votes, regardless of the evidence of his record or the true wishes of his constituancy. Basically to me he seems to be full of ####. Would that be FOS in web speak?

08-11-04, 10:24 AM	#10
finless brown Native Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,704	"OK Right Wingers, your turn." Grady, since when did you become a right winger?