SCOTT G2 - Page 2

S.Trutta · 12-15-05, 07:52 PM

After all this feedback I'm really starting to drift towards the classic Winston WT. I will definetely need to take a look at them in person and throw some line with them, but it seems like in general they are getting a slightly negative feedback...not something you want to hear when your about to drop $595 on a rod. As I said, i have fished the Winston WT 8ft 4wt TMF extensively and love that rod. I think it is the most classy looking graphite rod on the market, with an "older school" action that actually lets you feel the rod. I have definetely been getting on the bandwagon of the faster sticks lately, one of the main reasons why i picked up the new TFO TiCrX a few months back. I am a somewhat of an advanced caster who really benefits from a rod that can create some insane line speed and tighter loops, but unless its an extreme circumstance like fish the Hex hatch in michigan or sulphurs on the beaverkill it really isnt necessary. Like most of us in georgia, i spend most of my time throwing either a double nymph rig or dry and dropper on small to medium streams where i dont need to throw 90 feet of line. The softer Winston might be the way to go.....ill let you guys know when i cast some at the flyshop.

Rich

Jackster · 12-16-05, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.Trutta

After all this feedback I'm really starting to drift towards the classic Winston WT.
Rich

While at the shop, cast, don't just wiggle, the Winston BIIx! Start out short and work your way out to casting a good distance with it. You might be suprised.
This coming from a long-time IM-6 TMF owner, user and lover!

DAWGFISH · 12-19-05, 03:05 PM

Howdy everyone!

I figured I would offer my dos pesos on a rod series that is my personal favorite, but doesn't seem to get the hype that a lot of the other rods do regarding the new generation fast action/easy casting stroke rods. If have never had a chance to cast the Thomas & Thomas Helix series, please do so! They are awesome rods. I own lots of rods ( I have the sickness bad), including Winston WTs, LTs, LTXs, Boron IIE, Scott Gs, Fs, eclipses, etc, and about every other brand of rod you can name, and IMHO, the Helix rivals any of them. They generate great line speed, but have a very relaxed casting stroke more reminescant of medium action rods. Tippet protection is awesome, but at the same time they have strong butt sections. They are great casting and fish fighting rods. They are one of the best rods I've found when it comes to having both finesse and power. In my opinion, they are better than the IIE in this regard. If you are familiear with T & T rod actions the Helix is the perfect blend of the Paradigms finesse, smoothness, accuracy, and tippet protection with the Vector's power and line shooting ability. These are probably the best all around rods I have ever used for trout fishing. I'm not knocking the others, I'm just saying folks need to try these rods out, becasue they are on par or better than any rod out there and they do not get the hype of the other rods. Fit and finish is awesome also. These are simply awesome rods. Try 'em out!

James Buice · 01-06-06, 10:59 AM

Just so you fellas know, we're going to have the new G2s at the Atlanta Fly Fishing Show for test drives.

chuckwagon · 01-06-06, 02:08 PM

I own a few T&T rods and have had nothing but crap service from the company. I know the rods are great. I really do feel they are superior to alot of others. But If i need a tip or section fixed and it takes 6 months with no call backs I am at outs with ya. It happened twice within a 2 yr period and I swore then I would do all I could to tell averyone how sorry the service was. Its personell was extremely rude as well.

All I am saying is to think about the company as a whole before buying the rods. If you pay big bucks for an instrument as these you will need customer service before its over. When you need it you should get it, not an attitude. Good ridence T$T!!

Trey
CW

James Buice · 01-06-06, 03:39 PM

Trey,
Contact T&T and speak with Trevor. Tell him about your experience and explain your problem(s).

Do you know who you spoke with at T&T? As a dealer, this is quite upsetting to hear of your troubles with the company and I'd like to help if I can.

James

chuckwagon · 01-09-06, 01:26 PM

James, I will check my records and see if I have the name. I thought I kept them because if the problem. It has been 2 yrs so It may be long gone.

Hence my rod choice has been Scott and they are a blast to cast!!

I'll come see ya sometime.

Trey

DAWGFISH · 01-11-06, 11:59 AM

CW,

I'm sorry to here about that. I have to say that I have not had the same experience. Far from it. I have only had to repair one T&T rod, but they were helpful, courteous, and I had the rod back in three weeks, which is well within par with the Sage, Scott, and St. Croix service departments I have also dealt with. Also I have had questions before about certain rods and actions, and Tom Dorsey (one of the owners) himself e-mailed me back. T&T also sends me free hats, magnetic rod holders, stickers, etc. I continue to get these things even though I haven't bought a T&T rod within the past year. I have found them to be a first rate company to deal with in everyway. James is right, contact T&T and let them know about your experience. Let me know how this turns out if you don't mind.

Steve

12-15-05, 07:52 PM	#11
S.Trutta Native Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,890	After all this feedback I'm really starting to drift towards the classic Winston WT. I will definetely need to take a look at them in person and throw some line with them, but it seems like in general they are getting a slightly negative feedback...not something you want to hear when your about to drop $595 on a rod. As I said, i have fished the Winston WT 8ft 4wt TMF extensively and love that rod. I think it is the most classy looking graphite rod on the market, with an "older school" action that actually lets you feel the rod. I have definetely been getting on the bandwagon of the faster sticks lately, one of the main reasons why i picked up the new TFO TiCrX a few months back. I am a somewhat of an advanced caster who really benefits from a rod that can create some insane line speed and tighter loops, but unless its an extreme circumstance like fish the Hex hatch in michigan or sulphurs on the beaverkill it really isnt necessary. Like most of us in georgia, i spend most of my time throwing either a double nymph rig or dry and dropper on small to medium streams where i dont need to throw 90 feet of line. The softer Winston might be the way to go.....ill let you guys know when i cast some at the flyshop. Rich __________________ "Fish hard or go home!!!"

01-06-06, 10:59 AM	#14
James Buice Native Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Jasper, GA Posts: 784	FYI Just so you fellas know, we're going to have the new G2s at the Atlanta Fly Fishing Show for test drives.

01-06-06, 02:08 PM	#15
chuckwagon Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Athens,Ga Posts: 1,446	T&T service I own a few T&T rods and have had nothing but crap service from the company. I know the rods are great. I really do feel they are superior to alot of others. But If i need a tip or section fixed and it takes 6 months with no call backs I am at outs with ya. It happened twice within a 2 yr period and I swore then I would do all I could to tell averyone how sorry the service was. Its personell was extremely rude as well. All I am saying is to think about the company as a whole before buying the rods. If you pay big bucks for an instrument as these you will need customer service before its over. When you need it you should get it, not an attitude. Good ridence T$T!! Trey CW

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12-19-05, 03:05 PM	#13
DAWGFISH Native Join Date: May 2001 Location: Gainesville/Brunswick/St.Simons Island Posts: 422	Howdy everyone! I figured I would offer my dos pesos on a rod series that is my personal favorite, but doesn't seem to get the hype that a lot of the other rods do regarding the new generation fast action/easy casting stroke rods. If have never had a chance to cast the Thomas & Thomas Helix series, please do so! They are awesome rods. I own lots of rods ( I have the sickness bad), including Winston WTs, LTs, LTXs, Boron IIE, Scott Gs, Fs, eclipses, etc, and about every other brand of rod you can name, and IMHO, the Helix rivals any of them. They generate great line speed, but have a very relaxed casting stroke more reminescant of medium action rods. Tippet protection is awesome, but at the same time they have strong butt sections. They are great casting and fish fighting rods. They are one of the best rods I've found when it comes to having both finesse and power. In my opinion, they are better than the IIE in this regard. If you are familiear with T & T rod actions the Helix is the perfect blend of the Paradigms finesse, smoothness, accuracy, and tippet protection with the Vector's power and line shooting ability. These are probably the best all around rods I have ever used for trout fishing. I'm not knocking the others, I'm just saying folks need to try these rods out, becasue they are on par or better than any rod out there and they do not get the hype of the other rods. Fit and finish is awesome also. These are simply awesome rods. Try 'em out!

01-06-06, 03:39 PM	#16
James Buice Native Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Jasper, GA Posts: 784	Trey, Contact T&T and speak with Trevor. Tell him about your experience and explain your problem(s). Do you know who you spoke with at T&T? As a dealer, this is quite upsetting to hear of your troubles with the company and I'd like to help if I can. James

01-09-06, 01:26 PM	#17
chuckwagon Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Athens,Ga Posts: 1,446	James, I will check my records and see if I have the name. I thought I kept them because if the problem. It has been 2 yrs so It may be long gone. Hence my rod choice has been Scott and they are a blast to cast!! I'll come see ya sometime. Trey

01-11-06, 11:59 AM	#18
DAWGFISH Native Join Date: May 2001 Location: Gainesville/Brunswick/St.Simons Island Posts: 422	CW, I'm sorry to here about that. I have to say that I have not had the same experience. Far from it. I have only had to repair one T&T rod, but they were helpful, courteous, and I had the rod back in three weeks, which is well within par with the Sage, Scott, and St. Croix service departments I have also dealt with. Also I have had questions before about certain rods and actions, and Tom Dorsey (one of the owners) himself e-mailed me back. T&T also sends me free hats, magnetic rod holders, stickers, etc. I continue to get these things even though I haven't bought a T&T rod within the past year. I have found them to be a first rate company to deal with in everyway. James is right, contact T&T and let them know about your experience. Let me know how this turns out if you don't mind. Steve