Park Rangers @ Abbotts 8/6/10 - Page 2

revwayne · 08-08-10, 10:27 PM

website: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/boating/registration

Registration is required for all mechanical propelled vessels AND sailboats over twelve feet in length that are used on "Waters of the State".

"Waters of this state" means any waters within the territorial limits of this state and the marginal sea adjacent to this state and the high seas when navigated as a part of a journey or ride to or from the shore of this state. This definition shall not include privately owned ponds or lakes not open to the public.

Registration is NOT required for the following vessels:

Sailboats less than 12 ft. in length
Canoes, kayaks, rowboats and rubber rafts that have no mechanical propulsion (i.e., are paddled, poled, oared or windblown) and
Boats operated exclusively on private ponds or lakes

As badly as i paddle/row I would never be accused of mechanical propulsion...

harleysilo · 08-09-10, 11:44 AM

Well, around 3:30 on Saturday the DNR was at the ramp again, doing the very same thing. They were a couple of nice folks, causally asking how the fishing was and talking about/asking about the lures they saw on my pole and then BAM So did you keep any? No i did not. After i quit fiddling with my canoe and got out of the water she asked for my fishing license which i promptly handed over. Meanwhile her buddy was chatting up to tooners with trolling motors and no numbers....shame on them, they got off with warnings and information which was nice i guess. But it turned out they didn't need any info as one informed me that he new it needed to be registered and he offered no excuse as to why he hadn't done it.....must be the type that needs a real ticket.

oh and one of the tube company's driver with a Grey shirt and the words STAFF on the front was nice enough to move all his customers out of the way of the ramp and then walk down the ramp to prevent them from blocking my access as i backed my trailer down to retrieve my rig. It was much appreciated and thoughtful of him and i let him know it.

Ted · 08-09-10, 01:02 PM

As I read this thread (and some others that have been around before) I am struck by thoughts of the terms "unintended consequences" and "collateral damage". It seems that when increased enforcement is discussed or requested it can have the potential to catch everyone and anyone. Every so often the police will have roadblocks (or more appropriately “checkpoints”) in my part of town. The intended purposes, I can imagine, are to find people DUI, or without licenses, insurance or buckled seatbelts, or with outstanding warrants, etc. Occasionally a “friendly reminder” will make it on the neighborhood message boards and discussion groups regarding not having too many drinks, wearing your seatbelt, stopping for stop signs, obeying posted speed limits etc. I think it is done under the guise of “hey, don’t get caught up in what YOU have requested”. If you are DUI or without required docs, they won’t care if you are a “good neighbor” or attend every meeting, you might get hung with some paperwork (or worse). I think people get mad sometimes because they only want the “bad guys” picked up. They might think: I was one of the people who screamed the loudest to get more LE out here to deal with them, how dare you stop me.

So, I guess I am saying that everyone should always endeavor to know all rules and laws and obey them as best you can. Especially if the call for more enforcement has gone out. “Big deal-ness” is relative too, I guess. I think folks on here probably think that “poaching offenses” (no license, wrong bait, over the limit, catching in C&R section, using cast nets, etc) are an A-1, sound the alarm, big deal. I guess for the average LE officer who has been involved in rescuing people or investigating accidents no PFDs or no registration might be a big deal to them. The “poaching things” are too but everyone has their own idea of what is a big violation and what isn’t (and it probably relative and subjective to some degree).

Everyone be safe and “properly” licensed, attired and paid up (parking) when you are out and about. To the average LE person who probably doesn’t have time to peruse the variety of message boards out there they don’t have any idea who you are except a person breaking a law or rule (if you are). Now, if you are a reasonable person you may get some slack. Or not. Someone may need to be made an example out of, please don’t let it be you.

TH

produnker · 08-09-10, 02:52 PM

Not trying to change subject but since ya'll are talking about rangers. I was looking thru the GON forum and one fellow had a question that no one has answered yet and I thought I would ask it here. He said he was at Settles the other day and was cleaning his catch and the rangers told him he could not do that. Is this correct. I usually clean mine at the dam but don't want to get in trouble over it. Any guidance would be appreciated.

MariettaMike · 08-09-10, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harleysilo

Well, around 3:30 on Saturday the DNR was at the ramp again, doing the very same thing.

I missed the date on the header. The folks you saw were the same ones I was talking about.

tommyking · 08-09-10, 06:13 PM

Ya them two boys ought to be horse whipped and giving tickets,They should have know better,Although I heard they are fine fellows and good Stuart's of the river,but any way they should have remember there PDFs and boat registrations.

Brandon · 08-09-10, 07:35 PM

Yeah those tooners were cruising for a bruising. I heard the tubby looking fella with the purple pontoon is filling out his toon registration right now to avoid these situations in the future

fishmonger · 08-09-10, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by produnker

Not trying to change subject but since ya'll are talking about rangers. I was looking thru the GON forum and one fellow had a question that no one has answered yet and I thought I would ask it here. He said he was at Settles the other day and was cleaning his catch and the rangers told him he could not do that. Is this correct. I usually clean mine at the dam but don't want to get in trouble over it. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Cleaning fish in the river is illegal, although I can't quote the reg ver batum.

FM

MariettaMike · 08-09-10, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by produnker

Not trying to change subject but since ya'll are talking about rangers. I was looking thru the GON forum and one fellow had a question that no one has answered yet and I thought I would ask it here. He said he was at Settles the other day and was cleaning his catch and the rangers told him he could not do that. Is this correct. I usually clean mine at the dam but don't want to get in trouble over it. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Since Settles is artificial only maybe they consider cleaning fish to be chumming.

On the White River the big browns hang around the boat rental docks waiting to slurp up fresh fish guts every day at fish cleaning time.

Buck Henry · 08-09-10, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishmonger

Cleaning fish in the river is illegal, although I can't quote the reg ver batum.

FM

I believe that to be true also. But I have read over the Fishing Reg manual twice now and cannot find where it is stated?

08-08-10, 10:27 PM	#11
revwayne Native Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Grayson, Georgia Posts: 273	Georgia Requirements website: http://www.georgiawildlife.com/boating/registration Registration is required for all mechanical propelled vessels AND sailboats over twelve feet in length that are used on "Waters of the State". "Waters of this state" means any waters within the territorial limits of this state and the marginal sea adjacent to this state and the high seas when navigated as a part of a journey or ride to or from the shore of this state. This definition shall not include privately owned ponds or lakes not open to the public. Registration is NOT required for the following vessels: Sailboats less than 12 ft. in length Canoes, kayaks, rowboats and rubber rafts that have no mechanical propulsion (i.e., are paddled, poled, oared or windblown) and Boats operated exclusively on private ponds or lakes As badly as i paddle/row I would never be accused of mechanical propulsion...

08-09-10, 01:02 PM	#13
Ted Native Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Representin' Blvrd Heights in the ATL Posts: 1,740	Know Before You Go... As I read this thread (and some others that have been around before) I am struck by thoughts of the terms "unintended consequences" and "collateral damage". It seems that when increased enforcement is discussed or requested it can have the potential to catch everyone and anyone. Every so often the police will have roadblocks (or more appropriately “checkpoints”) in my part of town. The intended purposes, I can imagine, are to find people DUI, or without licenses, insurance or buckled seatbelts, or with outstanding warrants, etc. Occasionally a “friendly reminder” will make it on the neighborhood message boards and discussion groups regarding not having too many drinks, wearing your seatbelt, stopping for stop signs, obeying posted speed limits etc. I think it is done under the guise of “hey, don’t get caught up in what YOU have requested”. If you are DUI or without required docs, they won’t care if you are a “good neighbor” or attend every meeting, you might get hung with some paperwork (or worse). I think people get mad sometimes because they only want the “bad guys” picked up. They might think: I was one of the people who screamed the loudest to get more LE out here to deal with them, how dare you stop me. So, I guess I am saying that everyone should always endeavor to know all rules and laws and obey them as best you can. Especially if the call for more enforcement has gone out. “Big deal-ness” is relative too, I guess. I think folks on here probably think that “poaching offenses” (no license, wrong bait, over the limit, catching in C&R section, using cast nets, etc) are an A-1, sound the alarm, big deal. I guess for the average LE officer who has been involved in rescuing people or investigating accidents no PFDs or no registration might be a big deal to them. The “poaching things” are too but everyone has their own idea of what is a big violation and what isn’t (and it probably relative and subjective to some degree). Everyone be safe and “properly” licensed, attired and paid up (parking) when you are out and about. To the average LE person who probably doesn’t have time to peruse the variety of message boards out there they don’t have any idea who you are except a person breaking a law or rule (if you are). Now, if you are a reasonable person you may get some slack. Or not. Someone may need to be made an example out of, please don’t let it be you. TH __________________ "Message received, no reply" Last edited by Ted; 08-09-10 at 01:12 PM.

08-09-10, 06:13 PM	#16
tommyking Native Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Cuba,USA Posts: 1,037	Ya them two boys ought to be horse whipped and giving tickets,They should have know better,Although I heard they are fine fellows and good Stuart's of the river,but any way they should have remember there PDFs and boat registrations. __________________ DILLIGAF

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08-09-10, 11:44 AM	#12
harleysilo Native Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 198	Well, around 3:30 on Saturday the DNR was at the ramp again, doing the very same thing. They were a couple of nice folks, causally asking how the fishing was and talking about/asking about the lures they saw on my pole and then BAM So did you keep any? No i did not. After i quit fiddling with my canoe and got out of the water she asked for my fishing license which i promptly handed over. Meanwhile her buddy was chatting up to tooners with trolling motors and no numbers....shame on them, they got off with warnings and information which was nice i guess. But it turned out they didn't need any info as one informed me that he new it needed to be registered and he offered no excuse as to why he hadn't done it.....must be the type that needs a real ticket. oh and one of the tube company's driver with a Grey shirt and the words STAFF on the front was nice enough to move all his customers out of the way of the ramp and then walk down the ramp to prevent them from blocking my access as i backed my trailer down to retrieve my rig. It was much appreciated and thoughtful of him and i let him know it.

08-09-10, 02:52 PM	#14
produnker Native Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Flowery Branch Posts: 46	Not trying to change subject but since ya'll are talking about rangers. I was looking thru the GON forum and one fellow had a question that no one has answered yet and I thought I would ask it here. He said he was at Settles the other day and was cleaning his catch and the rangers told him he could not do that. Is this correct. I usually clean mine at the dam but don't want to get in trouble over it. Any guidance would be appreciated.

08-09-10, 07:35 PM	#17
Brandon Native Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dahlonega, Ga Posts: 656	Yeah those tooners were cruising for a bruising. I heard the tubby looking fella with the purple pontoon is filling out his toon registration right now to avoid these situations in the future